1-on-1 request

Sep 1, 2007
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I would love to see a 1-on-1 with Aaron Fisher going over the classic pass. I would love to see how he does it and get his tips.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I mean, I've been doing the classic pass for a while, but I learned it from Ninja, so I guess it goes without saying that I rarely use it. I really want to learn it right from somebody who knows what it is and knows how to teach it.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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It's not that it's exceptionally difficult, I just don't feel comfortable with it based on how it was taught.
 
Oct 6, 2007
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i learned it from the E videos too, and pull it off without a problem...never been caught

it isnt a hard move

To get it at the level of yours, probably isn't hard.

To get it invisble, is EXTREMELY hard, and takes years of practise.

Therefore, it can be a hard move, but depends on how 'invisble' you want it.
 
In the words of one of the greatest card magicians I know, "The pass will never be invisible, so you can just give that **** up..."

The pass is not meant to be invisible. It is not meant to be a technique used right in front of your spectator's eyes... it is a tool to be used in your performance with misdirection and timing.

If you want to learn the classic pass correctly, read pages 97-99 of The Expert At The Card table about the Two Handed Shift.

Voila
 
Dec 17, 2007
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Does any one know how I can do the pass just looking at the cards if you do pm me.


Seriously the pass is overrated much easer way to control the cards.
 
Dec 22, 2007
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If you want to learn the classic pass correctly, read pages 97-99 of The Expert At The Card table about the Two Handed Shift.

Erdnase wrote that in the context of executing it at the card table. Some of the movements he describes do not allow for the fastest pass, they make it hard to see (IMO, only to people on your right). In the context of being a magician, I would say the faster the pass, the better, because it'll take less misdirection to accomplish the feat without having the spectators know anything happened.
 
Sep 3, 2007
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I don't really care that much about the Pass. It seems that these days people do it for "magical masturbation"... to show off to other magicians and do a hard move invisibly just for the sake of not being caught. Like I've always said, I'd rather use a little good ole' misdirection and execute my far less-than-invisible Pass.

However, I would love to see Aaron release a "Gravity Half Pass" DVD. That would be the shiznit.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I don't really care that much about the Pass. It seems that these days people do it for "magical masturbation"... to show off to other magicians and do a hard move invisibly just for the sake of not being caught. Like I've always said, I'd rather use a little good ole' misdirection and execute my far less-than-invisible Pass.

However, I would love to see Aaron release a "Gravity Half Pass" DVD. That would be the shiznit.

Are you crazy?! It would be like a six hour long DVD!
 
Sep 1, 2007
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You want tips on the Classic Pass? It's called "experiment." You know the basic technique, NOW EXPERIMENT and try some methods to make it more "invisible."
You guys expect to "master" a technique the very first time you learn it. How about you guys take your time and actually practice your material and stop asking for new stuff?
 
Oct 17, 2007
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I don't really care that much about the Pass. It seems that these days people do it for "magical masturbation"... to show off to other magicians and do a hard move invisibly just for the sake of not being caught.

I disagree. Everyone knows that magical masturbation is XCM. :cool:

Erdnase wrote that in the context of executing it at the card table. Some of the movements he describes do not allow for the fastest pass, they make it hard to see (IMO, only to people on your right). In the context of being a magician, I would say the faster the pass, the better, because it'll take less misdirection to accomplish the feat without having the spectators know anything happened.

Also disagree.

Although the 2 handed shift is in the card cheat section, Erdnase describes the pass as taking place 'in a flash, with the hands perfectly at rest' (pg97 I think)
That implies a speed much faster than most magicians today, to say nothing of the hand movements.

I am extremely fortunate to have seen the classic pass damm near perfectly done, and I can tell you that Erdnase's description is spot on. The magician in question learnt the pass with the text from 'Expert at the Card Table' and nothing else.

I am willing to bet that most magicians who have really mastered the pass (Jerry Sadowitz, Larry Jennings, etc) had nothing more than S.W. Erdnase's instructions.

Also, your claim that Erdnase's technique tends to be covered from the right is incorrect. The right side is actually the one most likely to flash.
 
Jan 26, 2008
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Get Richard Kaufman on the pass.

If your learnt it from Ninja 1 your doing it wrong, no Offence but Brad Christians pass is taught in the wrong way.

There are allot of great pass videos out already
 
Sep 1, 2007
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Get Richard Kaufman on the pass.

If your learnt it from Ninja 1 your doing it wrong, no Offence but Brad Christians pass is taught in the wrong way.

There are allot of great pass videos out already

You think I haven't figured that out yet? Thank you for your suggestion, though.
 
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