Best way to force multiple numbers

Hey guys I need to find a method of forcing 6 numbers in the easiest and most direct way possible. I don't want it to be through a force bag or any addition type of thing. Ideally I want it to seem that they either thought of these numbers randomly or chose them in a completely random way. The numbers I need to force are

44, 13, 34, 11, 14, 33

Thanks!

~Josh
 
May 24, 2011
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Oh look, there's a discarded lottery ticket on the ground over there. Maybe we can use those numbers. *shrug*
 
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Hey guys I need to find a method of forcing 6 numbers in the easiest and most direct way possible. I don't want it to be through a force bag or any addition type of thing. Ideally I want it to seem that they either thought of these numbers randomly or chose them in a completely random way. The numbers I need to force are

44, 13, 34, 11, 14, 33

Thanks!

~Josh

On Rich Ferguson's This is Mentalism DVD, he teaches a way to force a large number on iPhones and iPod Touches with the calculator. If you have the DVD, just use that method with all of those numbers together.
 

RealityOne

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If you are performing for a large enough group, have 10 people write down numbers between 1 and 50 and put them in an envelope. Collect the envelopes in a large paper bag. Pull 5 envelopes out of the bag and use the numbers in the selected envelopes.

Put the numbers on a lottery ticket. Buy 9 other tickets with different numbers. Have the spectator select one of the tickets. If any of the tickets are winners, you have to split your winnings with me and Divided Mind.

Have six stooges in the audience call out those numbers when you ask people to yell out numbers.

Collect dollar bills from six audience members. Put them in your pocket while making a joke about making them disappear. Give the bills back to the spectators and have the spectators read off the first (or last) number on the bill.
 
On Rich Ferguson's This is Mentalism DVD, he teaches a way to force a large number on iPhones and iPod Touches with the calculator. If you have the DVD, just use that method with all of those numbers together.

Do you happen to have a link to a video of this so I can see how natural it looks?

Do you need to force all 6 or just one of the six. The reason I ask is that forcing those numbers will seem very forced

I need all six, its for a lottery effect. I could change up the numbers, it was just these were my force numbers using a differnt method that didn't quite work out

Collect dollar bills from six audience members. Put them in your pocket while making a joke about making them disappear. Give the bills back to the spectators and have the spectators read off the first (or last) number on the bill.

I think at this moment, this may be my best bet. I'm doing a lottery effect, so I could always ask the spectators for the money to "pay for the ticket"
 

RealityOne

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Do you happen to have a link to a video of this so I can see how natural it looks?

The effect is where the spectators call out numbers which when multiplied on a iPhone equal a predicted number. I think it has too many steps and won't look as clean as you want.

I have some additional thoughts on using the bills which I will PM you.
 
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Hmmm.... have you picked up the Annemann book on forces yet?

THE PROBLEM: You have a long list of numbers you want to use and if you wish to use them in one setting, the fact that you are doing so is going to create reason for suspicion UNLESS you handle everyone involved in the same EXACT manner. To do this means you must stoop to using some kind of mechanical method unless you're willing to risk a miss or close-call type scenario on at least one or two numbers... even at that I'm a bit doubtful when it comes to results and how clean things are going to look.

RESOLVING THIS ISSUE: can easily be done via an envelop system such as the Ted Lesley TELEPORT which to me, is perfect for this particular scenario. Going with the previous setting, you hand out a dozen or so envelopes & cards, ask guests to jot down any two-digit number, place it into the envelope and seal it. . . Envelopes are mixed and handed to you or an assistant who then riffles through the stack allowing several different people to make a seemingly free selection. When the tops of each envelop is cut open by the participant, the number cards removed, you will have all required numbers in play and unless one of your guests are savvy to the method, you've completely clean. . . they can look into the envelope, it's only got the one slip, everything is sealed, etc.

Believe it or not, this is exactly what the audience will see; there's relatively nothing to hide. . . I say this only because however many envelopes you require for making your force must be marked in a way to allow you (or your helper) to quickly and easily identify them in the mix. From there, as you permit different folks to choose random envelopes, you are doing a classic force as you fan and riffle through the collection. Everything else is accomplished by the envelopes when they are CUT open. . . you must use scissors when opening the envelopes in order for the TELEPORT gimmick to work properly.

This envelope design is so perfect that the majority of working professional have elected to use it over most of the older, most common forcing envelope systems. I've been using them for well over a decade and they've never failed to deliver sure-fire bewilderment.
 
Hmmm.... have you picked up the Annemann book on forces yet?

THE PROBLEM: You have a long list of numbers you want to use and if you wish to use them in one setting, the fact that you are doing so is going to create reason for suspicion UNLESS you handle everyone involved in the same EXACT manner. To do this means you must stoop to using some kind of mechanical method unless you're willing to risk a miss or close-call type scenario on at least one or two numbers... even at that I'm a bit doubtful when it comes to results and how clean things are going to look.

RESOLVING THIS ISSUE: can easily be done via an envelop system such as the Ted Lesley TELEPORT which to me, is perfect for this particular scenario. Going with the previous setting, you hand out a dozen or so envelopes & cards, ask guests to jot down any two-digit number, place it into the envelope and seal it. . . Envelopes are mixed and handed to you or an assistant who then riffles through the stack allowing several different people to make a seemingly free selection. When the tops of each envelop is cut open by the participant, the number cards removed, you will have all required numbers in play and unless one of your guests are savvy to the method, you've completely clean. . . they can look into the envelope, it's only got the one slip, everything is sealed, etc.

Believe it or not, this is exactly what the audience will see; there's relatively nothing to hide. . . I say this only because however many envelopes you require for making your force must be marked in a way to allow you (or your helper) to quickly and easily identify them in the mix. From there, as you permit different folks to choose random envelopes, you are doing a classic force as you fan and riffle through the collection. Everything else is accomplished by the envelopes when they are CUT open. . . you must use scissors when opening the envelopes in order for the TELEPORT gimmick to work properly.

This envelope design is so perfect that the majority of working professional have elected to use it over most of the older, most common forcing envelope systems. I've been using them for well over a decade and they've never failed to deliver sure-fire bewilderment.

Interesting idea! I'm going to send you a PM
 
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I had a lottery effect I did in one of my shows where I not only show that I predicted the lottery results the audience members would choose. I would have handed the prediction a week earlier to the person who booked me and the numbers matched up to an actual drawn lotto the night before.
 
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