BURN | Change

Dec 10, 2007
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could someone tell me what the big deal is about change? Im not sure i understand why it is so talked about.
 
Jun 22, 2008
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Have you seen it? Its talked about so much because its incredibly visual and clean. There is no apparent finger motion what so ever, no cover, and his hands are empty.
 
Nov 15, 2007
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could someone tell me what the big deal is about change? Im not sure i understand why it is so talked about.

Well, obviously 'Change' is by the ellusive Daniel Madison, and is the most visual change out there and rellies on no cover for it to happen.

OK So it is CHANGE. Also what does he teach instead of CHANGE.

JDEN

Daniel doesn't really teach any color changes in this PDF, you will either need to 'supply' your own or settle for the 'changes' in there. Also Jden, if you pondering over wether to buy this or not, do it, buy BURN. You will not be unhappy with it.

-SM
 
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Well, obviously 'Change' is by the ellusive Daniel Madison, and is the most visual change out there and rellies on no cover for it to happen.

In all honesty, the Moving Pips gimmick is really the most visual change there is. No cover, no odd movements. But, if CHANGE lives up to the hype it has gotten... Well Madison would have to be Satan for it to truly live up to the hype... but if it does... This'll be groundbreaking.


By the way, has anyone else noticed that, though quite different, the ClipShift looks almost just as good as change?
 
Mar 30, 2008
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Daniel Madison doesn't teach Change but he just goes over other changes which you will know if you buy the book. Nothing too complicated or gimmicked. You might already know most of them, but he does go over the little details.
 
Dec 10, 2007
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i have seen it and i thought it looked great but is it just me or can you see how its gimmicked. i mean you can see what looks like a crease down the middle of the card that it gets changed into.
 
Nov 20, 2007
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There's lots of speculation around that, you can see it, but he's also said some things are there to deliberately deceive and mislead, so yeah. R3man has also come out straight and said it was not a blink card so it's not that sort of gimmick.
 
Dec 10, 2007
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There's lots of speculation around that, you can see it, but he's also said some things are there to deliberately deceive and mislead, so yeah. R3man has also come out straight and said it was not a blink card so it's not that sort of gimmick.

well if thats the case then who cares? if you can achieve the same effect with a different method then just use that. If your trying to impress laymen, they would be just as impressed with a snap change or shapeshifter.
 
Jun 10, 2008
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well if thats the case then who cares? if you can achieve the same effect with a different method then just use that. If your trying to impress laymen, they would be just as impressed with a snap change or shapeshifter.


I agree with part of this comment.

I strongly believe that if you're going to build one move up as being the second coming, it should have more to offer than being 'more visual'. It should be as or more practical than exisitng methods, It should have as few angle issues as possible, and it should be impromptu. It should be a move, not a gimmick, to accentuate the last comment.

My thinking on this is due in part to my belief that one good colour change is no more impressive to the lay than another good change. The EGO change is just as good as the Erdnase change, is just as good as a TP change, is just as good as... You get the idea.
Of course, different moves are better in certain contexts, but ultimately it's swings and roundabouts, when it comes to marketing the move to Magic enthusiasts.

However, to say that thing about using a different method if it achieved the same effect, it doesn'treally work that way, for me at least. If change is a move that genuinely looks that clean, I'm in. On the other hand, I wouldn't use a Blink gimmick, simply because It's not a colour change, it's a gimmick. Although I do use gimmicks (I'm the anti-purist in fact, haha), I wouldn't substitute what could be achieved by hard earned sleight of hand chops with a flipper card. Again, another issue for another thread, but my opinion is that a gimmick should be used in conjunction with SoH, not as a replacement!


So, ultimately, to clarify, if it's a move, I'm on board, if it's a gimmick, not my thing. I'm NOT however, casting ill opinion on other peoples use of either method though, I know gimmick cards such as the blink, et al, work for some people. Plus I like Daniel. And I like BURN!

CL
 
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