DL Turnover

[RebelZero]

Hello, all. I have a question for you. I still consider myself a newbie and I'm working on really nailing down some go-to sleights. One of which is the DL. I'm having a bit of trouble with one aspect of it though and I'm hoping someone can help.

Everything is peachy with my DL until I get to the turnover. When I perform it, I do it in such a manner that it turns over with a slight injog. This allows for an easier final turnover. My problem is that when I do this, things don't stay flush. They split just enough for spectators to be able to see what's been done. If I do the turnover so it lands completely flush with the deck, I can control that problem with my hand holding the deck. However, that makes the final turnover more difficult as I pretty much have to do a second DL to get there.

What can I do to facilitate the turnover with an injog? Is it just a matter of angle? I've seen many pros do it and it's just as smooth and clean as when I do it flush with the deck.

Thanks.

 

[CaseyRudd]

Hello, all. I have a question for you. I still consider myself a newbie and I'm working on really nailing down some go-to sleights. One of which is the DL. I'm having a bit of trouble with one aspect of it though and I'm hoping someone can help.

Everything is peachy with my DL until I get to the turnover. When I perform it, I do it in such a manner that it turns over with a slight injog. This allows for an easier final turnover. My problem is that when I do this, things don't stay flush. They split just enough for spectators to be able to see what's been done. If I do the turnover so it lands completely flush with the deck, I can control that problem with my hand holding the deck. However, that makes the final turnover more difficult as I pretty much have to do a second DL to get there.

What can I do to facilitate the turnover with an injog? Is it just a matter of angle? I've seen many pros do it and it's just as smooth and clean as when I do it flush with the deck.

Thanks.

It sounds like when you let go of the card for the turnover, your thumb accidentally slides that card due to friction, thus allowing the cards to split. An easy way to solve this is to not keep your thumb on the card as it turns over and releasing it last second. When you have the card pulled all the way to the edge of the deck, let your thumb go and turn the card over with your fingers. It reduces friction with the thumb and allows for an easier turnover.

Or, you can have a natural bend or bow in the deck. Hold the deck face down in your hand, and squeeze the deck, making the top of the deck bow upwards. This will make it automatic for after you turn the card over, because there now is a gap between the double and the deck. It's a breeze grabbing the card to turn it over, without worrying about another get ready.

Hopefully my tips have helped. If you want further advice on the double lift, you can check out Jason England's 1-on-1 here on theory11...

Or you can go to Dan and Dave's website (dananddave.com) and purchase Paul Wilson's Double Lift Workshop. It's a little pricier than Jason's, but the DL is pretty much the sleight you will use the most in all of your performing career as a magician, so investing in that sleight is the best you can do.

Cheers,

Casey

 

[moviesandmagic3]

another tip would be to not hold the cards too tightly. the lighter the grip, the better.

 

[tokyoUW]

Simple fix.

Instead of dropping the DL into an injog position, drop it into an outjog position, so that you can use your index finger to push it flush with the deck while slightly pulling down (so that the inward end pops up from off the deck). From here you can obtain a natural pinky break beneath the double ready to turn it back over. In addition, the sleight tension that is in the cards while you pull down with your index finger while pushing the DL back flush with the deck prevents the DL from separating.

 

[Chris W]

Simple fix.

Instead of dropping the DL into an injog position, drop it into an outjog position, so that you can use your index finger to push it flush with the deck while slightly pulling down (so that the inward end pops up from off the deck). From here you can obtain a natural pinky break beneath the double ready to turn it back over. In addition, the sleight tension that is in the cards while you pull down with your index finger while pushing the DL back flush with the deck prevents the DL from separating.

I concur. I use my index finger to make sure everything is flush. Give it a try!

 

[TheatreHead]

Simple fix.

Instead of dropping the DL into an injog position, drop it into an outjog position, so that you can use your index finger to push it flush with the deck while slightly pulling down (so that the inward end pops up from off the deck). From here you can obtain a natural pinky break beneath the double ready to turn it back over. In addition, the sleight tension that is in the cards while you pull down with your index finger while pushing the DL back flush with the deck prevents the DL from separating.

Agreed. This is how I do mine.

 

[RebelZero]

The outjog method seems to be the most viable. With a little practice, it feels like I should be able to get it down pretty smoothly. Thanks for all the help.

 

[Ashrei]

Another thing you could try is you can try to give quick bend to the cards above the break (double, triple, whatever). That will let the air between cards out and they are more likely to stay together.

I also do outjogging of the cards. Afterwards, I can use my thumb to press down on the cards to create break later.

 

[Randomwrath]

Simple fix.

Instead of dropping the DL into an injog position, drop it into an outjog position, so that you can use your index finger to push it flush with the deck while slightly pulling down (so that the inward end pops up from off the deck). From here you can obtain a natural pinky break beneath the double ready to turn it back over. In addition, the sleight tension that is in the cards while you pull down with your index finger while pushing the DL back flush with the deck prevents the DL from separating.

I'm adding yet another vote towards this method.