Erdnase two handed shift help!!!

Aug 7, 2013
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Hi all,

I'm just starting work on the two handed shift and have recently downloaded aaron fisher's lesson on it which is a great, in depth tutorial. I'm completely willing to devote as much time as i need to but i would like some help in regards to, once the pinky has been inserted and im holding the cards at the figure tips (as shown in not only aaron fisher's work but also expert at the card table) the break is always visible on my left thumb side and i dont know how to get it to close without putting unnecessary tension on the deck. Would anyone be able to advise how to do this?

Thank you

Regards

James.
 

strudles

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Simply don't slide your pinky into this incredibly wide break until you cover the deck with your other hand to perform the shift (the angles on the left of the pass aren't very good anyway). If you need any other help, tell me!
 
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Aug 7, 2013
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Thank you...is this a pass that you use?.....any other tips in regards to the break, any other ways to close it?
 
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Just to be clear, are you talking about the "Two-Handed Shift" (the classic pass), or the "Erdnase Shift, Two Hands"?
 

strudles

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Thank you...is this a pass that you use?.....any other tips in regards to the break, any other ways to close it?

I use the classic pass (which I think you are referring to) all the time. Since I have small hands that can't cover the break that appears near the end of the shift, I will usually bring the deck farther back into my hand, keeping the break near the middle of the deck and perform the pass there. This way the top packet (which is now moved to the bottom) moves into a sort of gambler's cop position then I use the jiggle-pass cover to conceal it. Most of the time I don't even bother with this though since the pass is supposed to be done with misdirection. No matter how burnable your pass is, it will always look like something is going on. The gambler's cop method is only to use if you are to do a color change with the pass and you are far away enough from your spectators that they will see that gap between the packets after the shift. Also, experiment in front of a mirror to find ways to turn the packet around miming a square-up. A common form of this is tilting the deck up slightly then performing the shift as you come down (only tilt up VERY slightly though, or else it will look very odd). I also tend to tilt the deck to the right a little (to the left if you are left-handed), which allows the shift to go slightly faster and helps to mime a square-up. However, if you are being burned, it's probably best to just switch to another control.

P.S. If there's anything wrong with some of the additions I use, I would love to hear advice from those who are better at the pass than I. I learned the pass only about 10 months ago, and perfected it well enough to use about 4 months ago. I'm sure something I said may not be correct, or the best way to go about doing the pass. If this is true, please tell me!
 

WitchDocIsIn

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This is my way of performing the pass -

I keep only a flesh break with my pinky, with my thumb along the left side of the deck. As my hands come together, I reach into the break completely, perform the pass, and square up. My left thumb is generally touching the tip of my right index finger (Or close to it) the whole time.
 
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