Foundations: Bottom Deal Help

[memphis90]

To Jason England and/or whomever has knowledge of the Erdnase Bottom Deal:

In the first part of Jason England's Foundations, he teaches Erdnase's Bottom Deal. I've been practicing for several days now (I do know that it will take many years to master this move) and I cannot for the life of me get the lower left corner of the bottom card to dislodge from the ball of my thumb. No matter what I do with my ring and last finger, I cannot get it to budge. Any advice would be wonderful. Thanks!

 

[yyyyyyy]

Are you holding the deck correctly? A slight bevel in the cards may be necessary. Loosen up your grip, experiment and practice.

 

[memphis90]

I've experimented with several different grips. I just cannot get that bottom card to pop out. It will always roll up under the inside of the deck.

 

[Vinnie C.]

This would be better suited to the "Card magic" forum, mate.

Best,
Vince

 

[TMH]

Try to use straddle grip man !

 

[memphis90]

Can I move the thread?

 

[Vinnie C.]

Can I move the thread?

Only moderators can move threads, I went ahead and handled it for you.

Best,
Vince

 

[4ofClubs]

No matter what I do with my ring and last finger, I cannot get it to budge.

This may be an issue of the dryness of the finger pad. In order to get the card to buckle up, you need to be able to get enough traction with the fingertip to pull it down. If your finger pad is too dry it will just slide down.

 

[TylerRouss]

The classic Erdnase bottom deal grip is simply difficult. I would honestly recommend attempting Jason England's Modified Erdnase Grip first, and once your comfortable with that going back and practicing the Original.