Gimmick? Gaff? Who can say?

[NJillusionist3]

I saw this dispute on the topic by bamagic on his effect, as to whether the use of a duplicated card with a signature was in fact considered a gimmick, or a gaff. Well, what defines these two? I only ask because i had a similar run in while i was watching a supposedly "ungimmmicked".....Dream of Aces i believe. And after the trick was performed, which was so-so in itself, he proceeded to explain the effect, and i thought i had already figured it out, which he confirmed saying that you would need a second set of aces for the trick. Is using a second set of aces considered a gaff or gimmick? I think it is, or doing effects like an ungimmicked Mcdonalds aces just wouldn't be as impressive. So you tell me, what do you set the bar at for gaffs and gimmicks, what are the bare examples?

 

[visualartist]

In my mind,using a second set is considered using doubles.
Gaffs to me is something that is first "normal" and then altered in some way.The best example is a gaff deck.Normal cards changed by appearance.
A gimmick is a device or a specific tool created to aid in an effect.

 

[Glenn West]

Yes, visualrtist is correct.

I was actually refering to the use of a black art card as being a gaff, however, this was not what was being used for the change.

As for the use of a dup it is just that, a duplicate.

However, whether one can call that "pure slight of hand" tee hee.

 

[Shodan]

I'd like to put forward the point of view that really, there are better things to spend time thinking about. Like cheese. Mmmmm...cheeeeeese....

 

[praetoritevong]

Haha. Totally. Then again I was wondering something similar, sooo... It does have relevance though.

I was asked if an effect I did was gimmicked or gaffed - I said it wasn't (there was a dupe involved). As far as I'm concerned that's correct anyway.

 

[10magicman21]

i consider a gimmick or a gaff to b something that the audience doesn't know about and that turns a simple effect into an impossible miracle. so yes i say that a signed double card is a gimmick

 

[bd]

In my mind,using a second set is considered using doubles.
Gaffs to me is something that is first "normal" and then altered in some way.The best example is a gaff deck.Normal cards changed by appearance.
A gimmick is a device or a specific tool created to aid in an effect.

I agree with visualartist.

- Using doubles is simply that, using a double (or doubles).

- A gaff is a normal item altered in some way to add to an effect; when the alteration takes place before the trick has begun. (Such as tearing a card before the trick)

- A gimmick is a changed item, such as a quarter that has been cut and banded together with rubber bands (the old "take a bit out of a quarter and spit it back on" trick)

Cheers,
Ben

 

[bamagic]

hi its me, the originator of all this dispute. i replayed to this on the original forum but i will say it again.
i am not going to say weather or not i use a gimmick, because that's not relevant. when i create magic weather it be videos or live preferences i preform as if to a spectator NOT as if it was a magician. so my youtube videos are for people who don't no anything about magic. that being said i want you to realize that as we are magicians, as magicians we are LIARS... we lie all the time. we preform lies quote "no this is a perfectly normal deck of cards". the reason this is controversial is because you all thought i was lieing to you as magicians but i wasn't i was just being a magician. im not saying that i was lieing im just saying that even if i was it wouldn't matter.
now its your choice of weather you want to believe that's its a lie or that its magic, thats what magic is...

just another liar
-B A