I'm a new magician

Nov 14, 2007
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well. to start off im mystery and i just started performing magic. i had a few questions that need answering. 1. what are the best cards to get. i have the bicycle: ghost black tiger and viper
 
Welcome to the ride!

In my opinion the red and blue Bicycles are the best to get because...

1. They are extremely common. 'Nuff said. If people see some weird black ghost deck and then you vanish their card out of thin air, in most cases, they're not going to like what they see.

2. They hold together well. I'm not one to judge this, but overall reviews and my outtake of a few other brands these are the best in that case.

3. They are well driven and supported. People are always enhancing them, coming out with their versions, etc. They're popular.

As for the bicycles, I'd say go with Ellusionist's Bicycle Master Deck.

I prefer blue over red, but it usually doesn't matter, it's just a personal choice and preference.

Good luck!
 
Aug 31, 2007
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got to sams...get a pack of 12 regular bicycle playing cards, it will come with 6 red and 6 blue...it should cost 14 dollars....thats your best bet!
 
Nov 15, 2007
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New Kid On The Block

Well i like to the Tiger but i just use the Blue and red deck cheper and most common

Hey I like the The special decks true its good to buy the common card there cheap and you don't have to worry bout them cuz you can always get them but
the tally ho viper is sick. with me i just use red or blue tally ho most of the time
:)
 
Nov 15, 2007
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New Kid On The Block

Hey names Al i been doing magic tricks for about a year i got a couple of question i need help with hope you can reply

1 Starting off. What crowed of people you think is good to perform for?

2 what if? What if you got people who enjoy watching while others is trying to mess you up?

3 What tricks you do to build up to best climax?
 

The Dark Angel

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Hey names Al i been doing magic tricks for about a year i got a couple of question i need help with hope you can reply

1 Starting off. What crowed of people you think is good to perform for?

2 what if? What if you got people who enjoy watching while others is trying to mess you up?

3 What tricks you do to build up to best climax?

1. I don't think that there is a universal "Good" crowd, there's obviously a "bad" crowd to perform for such as people on cell phones. Use your own judgment. If someone looks as though they are having the worse day ever, or just don't look approachable, I would avoid them. But lets say you see a group of people laughing and who seem to be enjoying themselves, then I would say go for it, and have fun!

2. A heckler is a magicians worst nightmare, and there are many threads, topics, and essays on this. adjones has written a great essay on hecklers, which I recommend looking into.

Adjones' essay on hecklers: http://www.penguinmagic.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=137620

3. Again, there are many essays and posts on this, but I think that most people would agree: Start out with something strong, but not your strongest, then build up to your final effect, making sure that you save the best for last. I could go on for hours and hours on all of these topics, but I'm trying not to write a novel here. :D

Don't be afraid to ask questions on here.
 
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Nov 15, 2007
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NEw KId On The block

Thanks for your advice and i good agree on the crowed situation. Nice meeting you and ill try to post something on the web of what i can do to see how people like em or i need to improve on
 
Sep 1, 2007
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If u are going to practice flourises just get Tally Hos 9.. This ones are WONDERFUL the best in this PLANET. I havent tried Guardians but you should take a look at those too.. I think that for performing you should perform with Bicycle, well I perform with Vipers, studs, tallys and nobody say anything I dunno if it is because I'm in another country and Bicycle arent as common as in US, but u should perform with bicycle they are not the BEST thing out but arent the WORST they are 3/5, and u can easily find gimmicks for bikes, if u like gimmicks..

So in Conclussion:
4 performing: Bikes if u want..
4 practicing.. Studs, Bikes, Masters, Vintages,Tallys, Vipers, ghosts, guardians, etc
4 practicing flourishing: TALLY HOS.. for me..

So remember this some people when u show them some Vipers, Guardians some black decks or with a different back that arent bikes.. there is the option that they will think that those are gimmicked decks or they will be AMAZED before u even started performing..

Hope this Helps

peace

aris
 
Nov 6, 2007
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Hey all I do is cards. So you should be able to trust this opinion. I suggest you start of with bycicles red, blue, green, and black. Their all good...But as for where to buy...It depends on where you live. But if you live in New England then go to Walgreens. Walgreens has great selections. But if you want top quality. Go to a Casino type of store. One that sells Poker cards, and pool supplies. Also another top quality area is a magic store. Though I can only vouche for my own magic store. But this also depends on what your intrested in doing for card magic. Please tell me and I may be able to advise.
 
Nov 15, 2007
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I haven't done a lot of preforming, but I think you should use whatever you like and can handle the best. I personally use red and blue bicycles and then use the ghost deck for certain effects (probably going to use guardians in the near future they look awesome O_O).
I also think that whatever you decide on preforming with you should also practice with. If you practice with Tally-ho red fans then switch to bicycles then you might feel odd if they control slightly different. That's just my opinion though.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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well. to start off im mystery and i just started performing magic. i had a few questions that need answering. 1. what are the best cards to get. i have the bicycle: ghost black tiger and viper

Woah! That's crazy! You're name is Mystery? That is quite a...name...
 
Aug 31, 2007
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There's this guy called Mystery who calls himself "The World's Best Pick-up Artist" or something, isn't it?

Mystery: Like many suggested, go with cards as cheap as possible yet still maintaining a good quality. Red/Blue Bicycles are definitely the way to go, not special custom decks. Trust me, your magic isn't going to be better if you use a Tiger or Viper or any other custom deck.

Of course, depending on where you are in the world, you may wish to get cards other than Bicycles. For example, Singapore doesn't have much Bicycles on sale, but Aladdins are extremely common. So, you may wish to look around your neighbourhood and see if you can find a cheaper alternative. If you like the feel and quality of this alternative, you may wish to use it.

exdarkmagition:

1. There ARE some ways to tell good from bad crowds, but they are usually unreliable methods. As a beginner, you may wish to try performing your tricks to your own family members to get feedback, after you have practised the trick billions of times. Ask them things like: How was it? Did I flash anything? Was I too boring while I talked? Did I look nervous or unsure of what I was doing? Was the effect clear enough to you? Your family should be supportive enough to help give feedback.

For me living in Singapore, older Asian men are usually more likely to heckle, while the younger you go, the less likely they will mess you up. That's my own observation: when you go out to perform next time, watch out for certain groups of people in your community and observe.

2. Don't be afraid of hecklers. If you do meet one, it's either you attack him, or you defend yourself. Defending yourself is easier, but I feel is less effective. For example, if someone goes like "That card isn't an Ace anymore, you switched it! Let me see!", defending will be like "Well, just let me finish." Then you continue performing for the rest who are non-hecklers, ignoring the heckler.

Attacking is an interesting one: I learnt that if you have the group on your side, they will actually help you fight off those hecklers by asking them to shut up. I personally have most of my friends helping me shut off potential hecklers in a group. For example, "That card isn't an Ace anymore, he definitely switched it! Let me see!" My friend(s) will go "Hey SHUT UP, just watch and enjoy, stop disturbing!"

3. Best climax... Basically, if you're in random situations and someone asks you on the street or along your school corridor to do a trick, one trick is usually enough, thus it is hard to generate a "best climax moment". The best climax of your tricks is dependent on the type of tricks you perform. Generally, tricks sold in the market are already audience-tested to be amazing enough, so... just do it.

If you are talking about Routining, where you are stringing a number of tricks together with a flow, that's a lot harder to describe. There are some articles out there on routining tricks, but as a beginner, you should focus on your sleights, your tricks, your presentation etc first before moving on to more complex matters.

- harapan. magic!
 
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