Kardwell Wynns
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I guess it has been asked before; and if I remember it right, someone said that "uncut" means "not canceled"
It means they are new in the cellophane and the seal is unbroken. I got confused when I ordered them too.
That is correct. It means that they are brand new cards that have not been used in a casino. Thus, they have not had their corners cut off (used cards you buy in the casino gift shop have been 'cancelled' in this way).
There's a lot of debate regarding the blue/red wynns versus the browns. I have several decks of each and my personal opinion is that they handle identically. I actually just recently ordered another dozen red/blues and they are now the only cards I use (I own just about every other deck on the market). As far as standard decks go (as opposed to specialty decks like ghosts, centurions, etc.), the wynns are my favorites. Many people say they can tell a difference between the red/blues and browns, but I can't. I love the way they handle and I love their look.
I have a lot of trouble with bikes clumping on me. I don't know why. I wash my hands religiously and try to be as careful as I can about oils and debris, but no matter what, every deck of bikes I own (including vintage and specialty decks) clump within half an hour of opening them. For whatever reason, I don't have this problem with the Wynns. Maybe it's something about the Bee finish. I really don't know.
Anyway, that's what the whole uncut thing is all about. I'm sure there are tons of people on here that will disagree with me about the comparison of red/blue wynns to browns, but all I can give is my own opinion based on my own experiences. And I really like the red/blues. The only negative thing I can say about them is that they don't fan particularly smoothly straight out of the box. I generally have to work with them for maybe 30 minutes to 'slick' them up a bit and then they work wonderfully.
I'm sure this was more than you wanted to know, but thought I'd offer since I've purchased so many of them.
Happy magicking,
Jack
There's a lot of debate regarding the blue/red wynns versus the browns. I have several decks of each and my personal opinion is that they handle identically. I actually just recently ordered another dozen red/blues and they are now the only cards I use (I own just about every other deck on the market). As far as standard decks go (as opposed to specialty decks like ghosts, centurions, etc.), the wynns are my favorites. Many people say they can tell a difference between the red/blues and browns, but I can't. I love the way they handle and I love their look.
I have a lot of trouble with bikes clumping on me. I don't know why. I wash my hands religiously and try to be as careful as I can about oils and debris, but no matter what, every deck of bikes I own (including vintage and specialty decks) clump within half an hour of opening them. For whatever reason, I don't have this problem with the Wynns. Maybe it's something about the Bee finish. I really don't know.
Anyway, that's what the whole uncut thing is all about. I'm sure there are tons of people on here that will disagree with me about the comparison of red/blue wynns to browns, but all I can give is my own opinion based on my own experiences. And I really like the red/blues. The only negative thing I can say about them is that they don't fan particularly smoothly straight out of the box. I generally have to work with them for maybe 30 minutes to 'slick' them up a bit and then they work wonderfully.
I'm sure this was more than you wanted to know, but thought I'd offer since I've purchased so many of them.
Happy magicking,
Jack
Brown Wynns
Ok, the Brown Wynns when they are brand new are amazing. I haven't tried the Violet/Red Wynns. After a couple of weeks though, they are terrible. I cannot fan them at all. They clump into packets of 15 and don't fan at all. I really like the Wynns though. They are great for aireals. I perform the Jones Change with them and they are great for that. Anything to do with packets, they are great. On the pip sides, the jumbo indexes look really bad when fanned, however the backs look pretty nice. They don't faro very well, at all. My regular bikes faro amazingly, but these don't faro at all. They do spread well when they are new, so they are very nice for arm spreads. They spring very nicely also.
Ok, the Brown Wynns when they are brand new are amazing. I haven't tried the Violet/Red Wynns. After a couple of weeks though, they are terrible. I cannot fan them at all. They clump into packets of 15 and don't fan at all. I really like the Wynns though. They are great for aireals. I perform the Jones Change with them and they are great for that. Anything to do with packets, they are great. On the pip sides, the jumbo indexes look really bad when fanned, however the backs look pretty nice. They don't faro very well, at all. My regular bikes faro amazingly, but these don't faro at all. They do spread well when they are new, so they are very nice for arm spreads. They spring very nicely also.
I'll agree with you about the fanning (clumping after a while), although that pretty much goes for every deck I own. Since bikes clump on me from the outset, I guess I appreciate that the Wynns at least give me some time before the clumping starts. 
I also agree about the faces. They aren't the prettiest faces (and I sometimes actually get people who think the red faces are black cards because the red ink is so dark). It's the backs I'm fond of. There's something 'classic' about the backs that appeal to me.
Personally, I'm just really thrilled that we're at a point in time right now where there are SO many varieties of cards out there. Chances are that there are cards that will feel 'right' to just about anyone. Thinking back 20 years to when I first started doing magic and the only cards you could find anywhere were Bikes, diamond back Bees and maybe Aviators and this is a great time to be a magician. Seriously, if you had told me even 10 years ago that card companies would be working with magicians to produce specialty cards designed from the ground up to be used by magicians, I'd have laughed at you.
These are great days we're living, folks.
Jack
P.S. The worst cards I've tried as far as clumping goes, are the Bike Vintage 1800s hands down. Lovely cards as far as design goes, but they were literally clumping beyond repair within half a day for me, which broke my heart, because, as I said, I love their look. I guess there's a silver lining though since they make great poker night cards (makes the guys feel like cowboys) after they stop being useful for magic.
I also agree about the faces. They aren't the prettiest faces (and I sometimes actually get people who think the red faces are black cards because the red ink is so dark). It's the backs I'm fond of. There's something 'classic' about the backs that appeal to me.
Personally, I'm just really thrilled that we're at a point in time right now where there are SO many varieties of cards out there. Chances are that there are cards that will feel 'right' to just about anyone. Thinking back 20 years to when I first started doing magic and the only cards you could find anywhere were Bikes, diamond back Bees and maybe Aviators and this is a great time to be a magician. Seriously, if you had told me even 10 years ago that card companies would be working with magicians to produce specialty cards designed from the ground up to be used by magicians, I'd have laughed at you.
These are great days we're living, folks.
Jack
P.S. The worst cards I've tried as far as clumping goes, are the Bike Vintage 1800s hands down. Lovely cards as far as design goes, but they were literally clumping beyond repair within half a day for me, which broke my heart, because, as I said, I love their look. I guess there's a silver lining though since they make great poker night cards (makes the guys feel like cowboys) after they stop being useful for magic.
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I'll agree with you about the fanning (clumping after a while), although that pretty much goes for every deck I own. Since bikes clump on me from the outset, I guess I appreciate that the Wynns at least give me some time before the clumping starts.
I also agree about the faces. They aren't the prettiest faces (and I sometimes actually get people who think the red faces are black cards because the red ink is so dark). It's the backs I'm fond of. There's something 'classic' about the backs that appeal to me.
Personally, I'm just really thrilled that we're at a point in time right now where there are SO many varieties of cards out there. Chances are that there are cards that will feel 'right' to just about anyone. Thinking back 20 years to when I first started doing magic and the only cards you could find anywhere were Bikes, diamond back Bees and maybe Aviators and this is a great time to be a magician. Seriously, if you had told me even 10 years ago that card companies would be working with magicians to produce specialty cards designed from the ground up to be used by magicians, I'd have laughed at you.
These are great days we're living, folks.
Jack
P.S. The worst cards I've tried as far as clumping goes, are the Bike Vintage 1800s hands down. Lovely cards as far as design goes, but they were literally clumping beyond repair within half a day for me, which broke my heart, because, as I said, I love their look. I guess there's a silver lining though since they make great poker night cards (makes the guys feel like cowboys) after they stop being useful for magic.
I have the exact same problems with the 1800's. But they're great for practicing two-handed cuts...
Damn. I'm a Jew (kind of) and I was really looking forward to getting these...oh well...I thought uncut cards just meant they were for use by the gentiles.
Well aviators are thin and stiff cards. Good for cuts but not very good for magic. Although it's always good to try some since there pretty cheap.
Yes, I know what you mean about the 1800's.... bought them at a convention, played with them in my hotel room for about an hour, and later on when taking them out of the box, they immediately clumped... horrid cards really. But, at least the look matches the feel.
Wynns are gorgeous and work beautifully... however, I agree, as nice as they are, they do clump after about two weeks of use. At least for me... and trust me guys, I am a hand washing freak. I won't even handle my cards until I have scrubbed my hands with soap and made sure they are not sweaty. And that's how I can get one deck to last me for two months.
Wynns are gorgeous and work beautifully... however, I agree, as nice as they are, they do clump after about two weeks of use. At least for me... and trust me guys, I am a hand washing freak. I won't even handle my cards until I have scrubbed my hands with soap and made sure they are not sweaty. And that's how I can get one deck to last me for two months.
One deck only lasts you 2 months? I've had one deck last me over 6 months, and I'm definitely not a hand washing freak.
David