Magic that the spectators do instead

Tower of Lunatic Meat

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I was practicing Raise Rise the other day and I had the thought of, 'maybe this isn't the kind of magic I want to do.'
I love knuckle busting difficult stuff. But if much rather do magic in which the spectator makes the magic happen. Like a step further than the magic happening in their hands.

My goal is to have someone walking away with the thought that they just made magic happen.

So far I've been thumbing through the Theory11 inventory and haven't found anything yet.

Any suggestions?
 
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Out of This World can be presented so that they do it, particularly if they shuffle the deck first, fantastic reactions.
 

RealityOne

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Shuffling Lesson is great as is Out of This World (there are a number of variations which can suit anyone's style).

B. Smith's Frequency and Eric Ross's Election are also great effects for that.

If you look at Scarne on Card Tricks or Encyclopedia of Card Tricks, there are a number of self-working effects that can be done by the spectators. Steinmeyer's Impuzzabilities series has a bunch of stuff that is hands off. Tamariz's Verbal Magic has magic that the spectator does with instructions from the magician.

Now, my one caveat is that the spectators don't believe that they really did the magic. They know you did something, but they just don't know what you did because you seem to have done nothing.
 

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Now, my one caveat is that the spectators don't believe that they really did the magic. They know you did something, but they just don't know what you did because you seem to have done nothing.

Could this be solved through possible false shuffling (assuming certain effects need a setup) or presentation, or both? Would any amount of presentation matter to get, from what it sounds like, that solid of a notion out of their head?
 

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Brett:

In a typical magic effect, I think that the audience assumes that the magician did "something" to accomplish the effect other than what the magician actually did. For example, the magician "somehow" hid the signed card in the box rather than it dematerializing from the deck and rematerializing in the box. Hence, the term "illusion." We present the illusion of magic. In the same way, I think that spectators assume that, even though the assistant from the audience is "waiving the wand" that the magician did "something" to accomplish the effect. Nonetheless, the illusion of the assistant being the magician is there.

My philosophy is that we, as magicians, need to do two things. The first is to eliminate any rational explanation for the method to the effect subtly (typically through the construction of the effect). By subtly, I mean not beating the spectators over the head by saying "this is an ordinary deck, all the cards are different, it is really shuffled and you had the choice to pick any card." Rather, let the spectator shuffle the deck, use a method of selection that seems fair, show the spectator the rest of the deck after they have picked their card (thus proving they are different and shuffled). The other strength of many of these effects is that they appear to be done entirely by the spectator (not having the spectator just say the magic word). The second is to present the illusion. This is all scripting and acting. The goal is to answer the question of "why" the magic happened (notice, I didn't say "how"). Chad Long's shuffling lesson, as I learned it from Wayne Houchin's presentation on Art of Astonishment, has a good "why" in that Wayne explains "he who cuts the deck, controls the game." The spectator cuts the deck and therefore, they control the game. Tamaritz's Paradise Recovered in Verbal Magic has the spectators draw a picture representing their idea of happiness on cards and then visualize letting go the things that hold us back and tossing the cards representing those things. In the end, they are left with one card - the card on which they drew their vision of happiness. Jim Steinmeyer's The Magician Who Fools Himself has the spectator playing the role of a magician, doing a trick that the performer had seen before. In each of those effects, the presentation presents a powerful explanation of why the effect works.

If we eliminate rational explanations and provide a powerful narrative of why the effect works, the spectator will buy into the illusion of magic. In many ways, they did perform a magic trick, but they realize that the magician had something to do with it -- even though they can't figure out the something. However, the illusion is so powerful, they want to believe it.
 
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Strong magic in my opinion either looks impossible, is visual, and happens in the spectators hands.

Visual is optional, but an image or frame that your audience will remember is essential.

The trick should present no rational explanation e.g. he did a switch and should show no flashes because even if the audience is not amazed he'll still be dazzled by your speed ("oh you're fast").

Therefore I believe a simple double lift trick could already deliver a huge impact; also SWCT can also fool a lot of audience members who are expecting sleihgts (the pass, double lift etc) because in my experience good ones will make them go "oh my god" because they cannot see how it's done and yet it fools the heck out of them.

Just my two cents.
 
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