My classic pass...

Sep 3, 2007
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That was very nice. Like I've told other people- I respect that you've poured so much time into this, but honestly... what's the point besides being able to show off to other magicians? I would much rather use a little good ole' misdirection and execute my far less-than-perfect Classic Pass. But it's neat that you can do it so well.
 
That was very nice. Like I've told other people- I respect that you've poured so much time into this, but honestly... what's the point besides being able to show off to other magicians? I would much rather use a little good ole' misdirection and execute my far less-than-perfect Classic Pass. But it's neat that you can do it so well.

What's this misdirection you speak of? ;)
 
Sep 1, 2007
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There is no difference...

The difference is in the motions. Invisible pass has this motion when top short edge of the deck hit's your eyes (or in this case, camera), and then you see top of the deck, something like up-down motion.

Classic pass has no motions in the wrist of the hands, just finger motions.

I hope you understand me...
 
The difference is in the motions. Invisible pass has this motion when top short edge of the deck hit's your eyes (or in this case, camera), and then you see top of the deck, something like up-down motion.

Classic pass has no motions in the wrist of the hands, just finger motions.

I hope you understand me...

I understand you. However, when I said there is no difference, I meant that there is no real technique difference, just a difference in cover.
 
Feb 5, 2008
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The difference is in the motions. Invisible pass has this motion when top short edge of the deck hit's your eyes (or in this case, camera), and then you see top of the deck, something like up-down motion.

Classic pass has no motions in the wrist of the hands, just finger motions.

I hope you understand me...


Ah, that makes sense. Perhaps I should have titled my thread "my pass". :p

(However, I personally don't see the need to segregate invisible/classic into different categories as they are virtually the same. The only true difference is, one uses misdirection and the other uses a cover [and mild misdirection]. But that's just my personal opinion.)

Thank you for clearing that up.

And to the gentleman who said he would rather see a live performance: I would like to provide you with that, but, I don't have an actual camera. And I like to keep my routines/presentation a secret from fellow performers; because in this age of clichés and regurgitated ideas, I would like to keep my performing style between me and my audience. By doing so, I sell myself, and not "that one TRICK."
 
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That was very nice. Like I've told other people- I respect that you've poured so much time into this, but honestly... what's the point besides being able to show off to other magicians? .
I find this logic to be flawed.
Here you go, misconception no.3 in this thread.

Anywho, WildCard, check your angles on the left, work out the cover so it covers it as well, just play with it in the mirror.

I don't know the mechanics of your cover, but from the looks of it, its been done by a quite a number of magicians. At any rate, it was done well.

Anywho, "Invisible Pass" is the pass by Fred Braue which is a Hermann pass, published as the first booklet in magic devoted to a single sleight. The classic "invisible pass" was so called by Brad Christian .... , which is just a variation on something magicians been using alot called the "Rock", Ken Krenzel in his video on the pass says that it was Houdini who used this extensively.

Just some info to clarify some stuff ..

Cheers,
 
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Feb 5, 2008
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Anywho, WildCard, check your angles on the left, work out the cover so it covers it as well, just play with it in the mirror.

I don't know the mechanics of your cover, but from the looks of it, its been done by a quite a number of magicians. At any rate, it was done well.

I see what you're saying. I don't typically have anyone on my left when I perform. It's always just worked out that way. :p My audience management is fairly good. And the "move" is subtle enough where no one would notice.

When I execute my pass, I use mild misdirection. That way, the spectator is forced to look at my eyes, but since my pass is invisible, they may choose to look at my hands and I won't get caught.

My cover is actually my own variation of the rock cover. It's handling and mechanics differ significantly from a classic rock. ;)


Anywho, "Invisible Pass" is the pass by Fred Braue which is a Hermann pass, published as the first booklet in magic devoted to a single sleight. The classic "invisible pass" was so called by Brad Christian .... , which is just a variation on something magicians been using alot called the "Rock", Ken Krenzel in his video on the pass says that it was Houdini who used this extensively.

Just some info to clarify some stuff ..

Cheers,

Wow. Brad Christian tries to push himself into "magician fame" by re-titling yet another sleight. :rolleyes: lol

Thanks for the info.
 
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