Overuse Injog

Feb 17, 2009
143
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Bethlehem PA
I use the injog control way to much but it is just so simple to do and I have never been called out on it but I'm thinking about learning various passes to control cards. Is there any of you that solely just use the injog control or do you mix up your methods as much as possible.
 
Sep 1, 2007
319
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USA
If you're always performing for laymen, it shouldn't matter.

... Just saying.

If a layperson sees a card at the top of the deck that you just put in the center, It doesn't matter how it got there to them, they just see magic.

But If you're looking for a nice way to control a card to the top, buy the clip shift from dananddave.com or go to their on demand and buy the miller cascade control...

both amazing and fool some magicians

Hope I helped

ZG
 
Jan 31, 2008
103
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Brooklyn, NY
There is nothing wrong with using one control too much especially if it looks fair.

If I were in your position I would think about the effects I use determine what part of the deck you need to maintain, and find controls that get the job done.

If you just need to move a card to the top you can use the cascade control, or cherry control, if your going to the bottom use the hoffzinzer spread control, if your controlling multiple cards use a multiple shift, if the order of the deck doesn't matter at all use the jog shuffle.

I rarely ever found much use for the pass in any effects I use, but learning it doesn't hurt.
 
Sep 1, 2007
319
2
USA
Magician is wrong... It doesn't have to be at the bottom... It can be controlled from anywhere in the deck...
 

nayost

Elite Member
Jun 18, 2008
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Los Angeles, CA
I use the injog control way to much but it is just so simple to do and I have never been called out on it but I'm thinking about learning various passes to control cards. Is there any of you that solely just use the injog control or do you mix up your methods as much as possible.

when you say injog control, are you referring to the jog overhand shuffle?
 

nayost

Elite Member
Jun 18, 2008
167
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Los Angeles, CA
yeah, i use that one quite a bit as well. i guess it really depends on what types of tricks are you performing. agree with brklynmutt.

If I were in your position I would think about the effects I use determine what part of the deck you need to maintain, and find controls that get the job done.

If you just need to move a card to the top you can use the cascade control, or cherry control, if your going to the bottom use the hoffzinzer spread control, if your controlling multiple cards use a multiple shift, if the order of the deck doesn't matter at all use the jog shuffle.

I rarely ever found much use for the pass in any effects I use, but learning it doesn't hurt.

sometimes a simple double under cut followed by a couple more riffle shuffles will do. if your spectator is focusing on how you are shuffling the deck, it becomes more of a puzzle than magic.

watching the true astonishment disks really helped. yes they teach you some amazing effects, but the interviews with various artist about concepts and theories of magic are invaluable. it really opened my eyes and helped me refocus. at the end of the day, is your spectator really going to say, he shuffles like that too much?

some controls and effects are great if you are performing to magicians. (a lot of dan and daves stuff, don't get me wrong, i love them!) but to layman, they can't keep up with what is going on, passes, color changes, etc. when the effect is over, they're like "what just happened? i'm lost..."

i think the best card effects for layman are the ones the spectator can follow you every step of the way, and an injog overhand shuffle is something that does just that. all they need to know is that you are shuffling to "lose" their card into the deck. and continue on with your performance.
 
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