Papercuts vs The System vs Solo

Which is the hardest DVD?

  • Papercuts (Chris Hestnes)

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • The System (Dan and Dave)

    Votes: 7 25.0%
  • Solo (Michael James)

    Votes: 20 71.4%

  • Total voters
    28

j.p

Jul 10, 2012
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Hi,

Sorry if something like this has been asked before. I am going to a magic shop tomorrow and I am getting into flourishing quite a lot, but I am not sure what DVD to get. I have The Trilogy and can do most of the flourishes on that. I like the flourishes on all 3 of the DVD's, so it is really just a case of the skill level. What is the hardest and easiest DVD out of the 3 listed?

Thanks!
 

yyyyyyy

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Apr 7, 2012
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Papercuts is definitely the easiest in my opinion. It only has 4 actually challenging moves really.
 

Andrei

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Can't speak for the other projects but Solo has a bit of everything. Some of the bonus moves Michael includes on Solo are fairly easy and I was doing them without much practice. Some of his other moves like The Collectors is insanely hard and will take a while to master. Overall, Solo has a bit of everything. Pure eye candy, I love it.
 

j.p

Jul 10, 2012
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'fairly easy and I was doing them without much practice.'

Maybe, but then again, you are Andrei Jikh xD
I have to admit, I do really love the look of the flourishes on Solo, but I am a bit worried that they will be too hard for me... Oh well, I suppose it's all about practice :)
 

theSunnyG

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Mar 3, 2012
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I personally found Solo to be by far the hardest~

And I know you didn't ask this, but special features-wise I'd go with PaperCuts as there's soo much behind the scenes on there, with like long discussions, jam sessions, bonus moves by Jordan Lapping etc.

Although, I also thought that Solo had some funny bloopers and it's good to see James + Jikh drop cards too ;) Let's me know they're human too! Really wished Solo had more behind the scenes though especially when it was all filmed like a music video/film.

But at the end of the day it's a flourishing DVD so guess that's what counts eh?


EDIT: Also @j.p, Birmingham as in Birmingham UK?!
 

theSunnyG

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Mar 3, 2012
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Me too! xD

Although I said Solo is the most complex (in my opinion) I think it has the best teaching, as Michael talks you through the flourishes unlike Papercuts and The System, though if you found the teaching in The Trilogy to be fine, then these two will be great too. But now me being SUPER nit picky, I wish the teaching portion of Solo was lit better as it's really dark, but maybe that's some artistic flair I just don't understand ;D

My least favourite from the 3 has to be The System - When I first got it, I thought of it more as a performance DVD than teaching, as D&D basically show you it, then 'teach you' through a short slow mo, and basically...voila, now do it. xD
 

j.p

Jul 10, 2012
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Coincidence! Whereabouts?
I have also heard that the teaching on the System is pretty poor, like you said, but it is still possible to learn off. Do you know where World Magic Shop is? That's where I intend to get a DVD tomorrow :)
I think that I may go for Papercuts. It has received no votes as the hardest and I think the flourishes look good too.
 

yyyyyyy

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Apr 7, 2012
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The System was definitely disappointing when it came to the teaching aspect of the DVD. But it did have some great material and the moves themselves aren't particularly hard. But they may appear slightly harder due to the hard to understand explanations. Papercuts has something for everyone and I found that one was the easiest of the three. The teaching was easy to follow and was shot in the "Over the Shoulder" perspective throughout the DVD, which I find extremely easy to follow. There was also a quick run through of the move after each explanation to show you how it should look full speed from your perspective, also very useful when trying to develop some flow. Solo had some extremely interesting material, Michael James Herp has a style of his own. Many of his moves are compatible with moves you probably know already. The teaching is excellent, shot in "Over the Shoulder" perspective throughout the explanations, but in addition to that, Michael talks you through the entirety of the cuts. This is rare for a flourishing DVD, as most of the time it's just a slow motion break down with the occasional bit of text. Solo contains moves that range in difficulty, it has some beginner moves and some really difficult moves. After this breakdown, I would recommend Solo due to it's variety of content, teaching style and difficulty. If you aren't comfortable with this DVD, I would try Papercuts, followed by The System. I'd also like the recommend the DVDs Dangerous Vol 2 (Motion) by Daniel Madison, and the Genesis series by Andrei Jikh. Both DVDs offer a variety of difficult and beginner moves, along with an easy to follow and casual teaching style. I hope this helps you
-Pav
 
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