Suzuki Violin Method - applied to cardistry?

[saborfang17]

For those of you that don't know, the suzuki method is a violin teaching method which forces the performer to play music beyond his/her abilities. This is done so that they eventually perfect the smaller moves combined to make this piece with little help from an instructor. Just wondering because for 3-4 years I learned to play the violin with this method and it was very successful, and I'd like to try and apply that to card magic & cardistry.

I was wondering, could this be applied to card magic & cardistry? It sounds like a weird concept, as so far as I know, cardistry/flourishing is pretty much muscle memory and finger dexterity.

 

[penguincdude]

Personally, I was almost forced to learn this way, and it doesn't work well with magic. Magic can't be rushed as you need to pace yourself and work your way up slowly.

My first ever reference for learning magic was The Trilogy, which contains rather difficult material, especially for a beginner. Personally, this didn't help me at all as I was unable to perform the majority of the material on the set and that which I could perform was too difficult and I performed it poorly. Personally I don't think it's such a good learning method.

 

[saborfang17]

Personally, I was almost forced to learn this way, and it doesn't work well with magic. Magic can't be rushed as you need to pace yourself and work your way up slowly.

My first ever reference for learning magic was The Trilogy, which contains rather difficult material, especially for a beginner. Personally, this didn't help me at all as I was unable to perform the majority of the material on the set and that which I could perform was too difficult and I performed it poorly. Personally I don't think it's such a good learning method.

You were forced to do it for violin or for magic? Thanks for the tips, I was mainly thinking about flourishing though.

Are Genesis and Dangerous (Mystique AND Motion) good places to start? I'm currently getting those two..

 

[penguincdude]

You were forced to do it for violin or for magic? Thanks for the tips, I was mainly thinking about flourishing though.

Are Genesis and Dangerous (Mystique AND Motion) good places to start? I'm currently getting those two..

For magic. And I've heard Genesis is good but Dangerous may be a bit advanced.

 

[Aaron.Williams]

I play violin too

 

[MagicLemonBird]

For those of you that don't know, the suzuki method is a violin teaching method which forces the performer to play music beyond his/her abilities. This is done so that they eventually perfect the smaller moves combined to make this piece with little help from an instructor. Just wondering because for 3-4 years I learned to play the violin with this method and it was very successful, and I'd like to try and apply that to card magic & cardistry.

I was wondering, could this be applied to card magic & cardistry? It sounds like a weird concept, as so far as I know, cardistry/flourishing is pretty much muscle memory and finger dexterity.

This is probably one of the more used methods by magicians, I can't speak for them because I'm a cardist. Some magicians practice cardistry to improve their card handling, you can use the suzuki method for that.

But magic? I doubt it, not really sure though. Let's say you're a beginner and you learn Green's Top Shot.....after the suzuki method works of course you're going to get the hang of it sooner or later. But different sleights will still confuse you.

In contrast, cardistry improves your card handling, which makes sleights and such much easeir.