Thoughts on Magic Video Comments?

Antonio Diavolo

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Rather than asking about exposure on the internet, I was wondering what people thought of the state of YouTube comments on basically any magic performance on AGT, BGT, Fool Us, Ellen, etc. It seems that most of the comments are along the lines of: "Terrible magician/dumb trick, he just used an electromagnetic implant to make the coin vanish into a skin pocket on his hand. And I'm not even a magician"

As I said, this isn't an issue of exposure. It's just a shame that people don't appreciate a good performance when they see one.

For example, I really dig Colin Cloud's presentation style. I've been a HUGE fan of Sherlock Holmes since like 4th grade so I love the idea of presenting mentalism and mental magic as Sherlock Holmes style observation skills. However, none of the comments seem to express this same sentiment. They're all focused on the method.

However, I do understand that some performances sort of invite this type of skepticism. Like Will Tsai's infamous matrix routine. Sure it's intended to be purely visual, but there was nothing to really appreciate other than the visuals, so everyone was focused on figuring out how he did the trick.

It's also created this weird misconception that simple=easy to do. Most people have this idea that all magic tricks are feats of advanced technology or complicated gimmicks so when they find out that the solution was something simple, they claim the magician is not skilled.

The example I used in the other post are the second, bottom, and center deals. I could totally see comments saying "pfft. Easy peasy. He just dealt the cards from the bottom of the deck" (Don't think that's exposure). It's a simple concept but takes years to make it look natural and fully master.

Idk. It just kinda sucks how people are so focused on the method and can't appreciate a good performance.

What do you guys think?
 
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The comments trying to dissect Shin Lim’s first Fool Us routine on YouTube are great.

As ChristopherT said, the veil of anonymity adds a lot. If they were actually at a gig instead of watching it, I guarantee they’d be silent rather than yelling out crackpot theories.

Oh and I can’t praise SK1N enough. I love my electromagnetic skin pocket. :rolleyes:
 
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The comments trying to dissect Shin Lim’s first Fool Us routine on YouTube are great.

As ChristopherT said, the veil of anonymity adds a lot. If they were actually at a gig instead of watching it, I guarantee they’d be silent rather than yelling out crackpot theories.

Oh and I can’t praise SK1N enough. I love my electromagnetic skin pocket. :rolleyes:
It really is a great utility. Super versatile
 
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Social media has given nearly everyone the false impression that other people care about and want to hear their opinions.

Don’t you agree......with my opinion?
 
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The comments trying to dissect Shin Lim’s first Fool Us routine on YouTube are great.

As ChristopherT said, the veil of anonymity adds a lot. If they were actually at a gig instead of watching it, I guarantee they’d be silent rather than yelling out crackpot theories.

Oh and I can’t praise SK1N enough. I love my electromagnetic skin pocket. :rolleyes:
Rather than asking about exposure on the internet, I was wondering what people thought of the state of YouTube comments on basically any magic performance on AGT, BGT, Fool Us, Ellen, etc. It seems that most of the comments are along the lines of: "Terrible magician/dumb trick, he just used an electromagnetic implant to make the coin vanish into a skin pocket on his hand. And I'm not even a magician"

As I said, this isn't an issue of exposure. It's just a shame that people don't appreciate a good performance when they see one.

For example, I really dig Colin Cloud's presentation style. I've been a HUGE fan of Sherlock Holmes since like 4th grade so I love the idea of presenting mentalism and mental magic as Sherlock Holmes style observation skills. However, none of the comments seem to express this same sentiment. They're all focused on the method.

However, I do understand that some performances sort of invite this type of skepticism. Like Will Tsai's infamous matrix routine. Sure it's intended to be purely visual, but there was nothing to really appreciate other than the visuals, so everyone was focused on figuring out how he did the trick.

It's also created this weird misconception that simple=easy to do. Most people have this idea that all magic tricks are feats of advanced technology or complicated gimmicks so when they find out that the solution was something simple, they claim the magician is not skilled.

The example I used in the other post are the second, bottom, and center deals. I could totally see comments saying "pfft. Easy peasy. He just dealt the cards from the bottom of the deck" (Don't think that's exposure). It's a simple concept but takes years to make it look natural and fully master.

Idk. It just kinda sucks how people are so focused on the method and can't appreciate a good performance.

What do you guys think?
Guys, am sorry, but well, discussing things like magic theory here is alright.
It is great honestly, it helps people out.
But guys, how could you possibly do this to the whole of the magic community? Have you got no shame? What are you, some form of Val Valentino or something?








Why did u disclose the secret of the skin pockets guys?!? It is the biggest secret of how all the magic works!






You think you can get away with this? Ha, no no mates, no no, I'll...I'll...I'll MAKE SURE THAT THE MAGIC POLICE GETS NOTIFIED!! HEY SHERIFF!


PS:- Let those stupid comments vanish in the skin pockets of you tube comments section. They are garbage and electromagnetic implants will vanish them automatically, don't worry.
 
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Guys, am sorry, but well, discussing things like magic theory here is alright.
It is great honestly, it helps people out.
But guys, how could you possibly do this to the whole of the magic community? Have you got no shame? What are you, some form of Val Valentino or something?








Why did u disclose the secret of the skin pockets guys?!? It is the biggest secret of how all the magic works!






You think you can get away with this? Ha, no no mates, no no, I'll...I'll...I'll MAKE SURE THAT THE MAGIC POLICE GETS NOTIFIED!! HEY SHERIFF!


PS:- Let those stupid comments vanish in the skin pockets of you tube comments section. They are garbage and electromagnetic implants will vanish them automatically, don't worry.
haha
 
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I know we’re jesting about skin pockets, but technically it could be considered a thing that is in use (maybe not so much any more).

Correct me if my memory is off but weren’t there legitimate skewers through body/limb acts done by carefully creating a fistula over time much like a piercing and then using them as guides? I think it’s in David Blaine’s bag of oddities too if I remember an interview right.
 
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I know we’re jesting about skin pockets, but technically it could be considered a thing that is in use (maybe not so much any more).

Correct me if my memory is off but weren’t there legitimate skewers through body/limb acts done by carefully creating a fistula over time much like a piercing and then using them as guides? I think it’s in David Blaine’s bag of oddities too if I remember an interview right.
That's more of a stunt than a magic trick. It's like a massive piercing.
 
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You don't have to develop scar tissue at all. You just have to have pain tolerance. Scar tissue will actually make it much more difficult to do, honestly.

The act is called Human Pincushion. Common places are the forearms, biceps, thighs, cheeks, and some will do it up through the soft area of the lower jaw. It started as a religious practice in ... either India or Southeast Asia, I'm not sure which.

I have a version of Through and Through where I put an acupuncture needle through my hand. I generally do that in our sideshow act after the bit where my wife puts her hand in an animal trap. Good times.

There are people who have implanted magnets into their fingers/hands to use for magic.
 

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I've considered it. Honestly if I wasn't sure the magnet would lose potency over time I probably would have done it by now.

The girl that lived with me just recently had a magnet implanted between her eyebrows. She would stick bottle caps to it as a party trick. She also has a split tongue, and would have people hold snacks up and she'd grab it like an alien. She's a hit as a strolling ambient performer.
 
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I've considered it. Honestly if I wasn't sure the magnet would lose potency over time I probably would have done it by now.

The girl that lived with me just recently had a magnet implanted between her eyebrows. She would stick bottle caps to it as a party trick. She also has a split tongue, and would have people hold snacks up and she'd grab it like an alien. She's a hit as a strolling ambient performer.
oh damn...
 

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If you don't have haters then you havnt made it yet haha. That is my outlook. Had someone DM me the other day saying my magic was S*** and no one like it. It made me smile because this person felt they had to go out of their way to tell me this... That person is in the forum group too lol.

Moral is not to let it bother you and just know that some people are naturally negative and if I had the best show ever would find something to complain about.
 
If you don't have haters then you havnt made it yet haha. That is my outlook. Had someone DM me the other day saying my magic was S*** and no one like it. It made me smile because this person felt they had to go out of their way to tell me this... That person is in the forum group too lol.

Moral is not to let it bother you and just know that some people are naturally negative and if I had the best show ever would find something to complain about.
I'm not a mindreader but I have a hunch who that was. :D
 
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