Torn or Torn Too?

[joshrobarts]

hey, ive been looking through the info i can find on Torn and Torn too and i was wondering if anyone can give me some perspective on which one is better or which one they prefer or really any more information in general. ive used the ever mentioned search button and combed the threads finding a lot of info on different Torn and Restored cards but i dont think ive seen this, sorry if i did miss a thread. thanks for any help. i appreciate it

josh

 

[fridoliina]

Torn is harder and more angel sensetive then torn too, torn too is super easy and does not have any real angel problems, however torn too uses a gimmick wich you have to make but its easy and will last for a while.

Go for the one that you think looks best.

 

[joshrobarts]

Torn is harder and more angel sensetive then torn too, torn too is super easy and does not have any real angel problems, however torn too uses a gimmick wich you have to make but its easy and will last for a while.

Go for the one that you think looks best.

thanks a lot, so torn has no gimmick?

 

[Aris.SA]

Yes, you makle it yourself but it only lasts one performance

 

[joshrobarts]

thanks alot both of you and any future posts by anyone

 

[Aos]

torn has completely impractical angles
it's only good for a single perfectly fixed spectator, ie a camera

i dont like torn too
i don't see how it would fool anybody who's watching the deck
the gimmick tries to hide in plain sight
but with a little effort you can see it in the small videos
let alone real life
which has much higher resolution

i know quite a bit of torn and restored effects and i dont perform any of them
none of them are practical AND visual
torn too comes close
but even if you pull it off its not as strong of an effect as tnr or torn
and his patter is absurd

 

[DavidMisner]

Both are excellent effects in my opinion, but it depends on what you like to do and where you perform.

Torn is extremely visual, but the angles are horrible. It's pretty hard to get it as smooth as Daniel, so you have to practice a lot more. I would recommend getting Torn if you perform in parlor settings or places where your audience has to stay seated.

Torn Too is visual as well, but the gimmick is very hard to hide. It seems a bit obvious to me. This effect looks good on camera, and will probably work well in darker settings like clubs.

Hope this helps!

David

 

[Justin.Morris]

Just thought I'd point out that Torn's angles are best done to a stationary audience. But they are probably better than you might think. I've done this table hopping (very specific locations tho) and I do it in my parlor style show for larger seated audiences. The angles are not good for a walkaround/strolling setting where you can not control your audience.
Basically, the angles are very workable with Torn.
I don't have torn too, so I can't comment.

Hope that helps some.

j

 

[Daugava]

I would go for Torn. I don't like the gimmicked that's used in Torn Too. I don't thinks it's to bad angels in Torn, if you just practice you will get it But I don't say that Torn Too is bad, it's also good.

 

[TheSkilledMagician]

Both are excellent effects in my opinion, but it depends on what you like to do and where you perform.

Torn is extremely visual, but the angles are horrible. It's pretty hard to get it as smooth as Daniel, so you have to practice a lot more. I would recommend getting Torn if you perform in parlor settings or places where your audience has to stay seated.



You seriously think so? I recenty performed Torn at a party. I did it for about 6 people. One of them was sitting, the rest were standing. I think the angles are pretty good.

 

[Quickhandz]

I struggled with the angles on Torn for a long time because in a real world situation when people are walking around and behind and on the sides of you whether they are the main spectator or not, the angles where so impossible to get right in that situation. I recently purchased Holy Grail and its the answer Ive been looking for. The gimmick takes practice to get down (but what trick doesn't) but it can be done completely surrounded, which lets me focus on the restoration and presentation of the effect instead of focusing my attention on the angles. Dont get me wrong though Torn is good in situations when you arent prepared to do Holy Grail, but I always try to leave my house when I go out to peform with at least two gimmicks ready to go.