Trick invented

[Donald C.]

This is a trick I invented I thought iw was really neat and I have done street magic with it and have gotten amazing reactions.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV-Vzsl2rK8

 

[adjones]

I told you what I thought last night. It has great potential but these are just some things I noticed:

1)Editing gave me a headache.

2)There's no point in losing the Kings in the deck if you just cut the deck immediately... looks pretty bad.

3)Work on the presentation a tad.

Other than that, it wasn't too bad.

 

[Eddie]

I agree with adjones on all 3.
Your patter to lose the kings was pretty bad... that made no sense at all. You could've said that these two kings will find your card, but I'm going to make it harder for them to find your card by losing them in the deck. That's just my suggestion.

Overall... the effect is not yours at all... it's just a simple sandwhich effect with different presentation.

 

[jackofclubs002]

There are so many versions of collectors with 2 cards sandwiching another cards that I can't see how this can be your as you say in the description on the page "An amazing effect I created!" maybe a 100 year old effect that I did that tons of other people do or a variation sorry if this sounds harsh but I wouldn't call the thread TRICK INVENTED because you really isn't a trick that you invented so for being so harsh especially because from the vid it looks like your a beginner and I wouldn't of like people bashing me with the simple little tricks I knew back then like that same collectors Ahh GOd I don't no how to say this nicely I changed it like a million times So Sorry needs PRACTICE AND ROUTINING DONE AND MAYBE SOME ORIGINAL TWISTS IN IT

 

[Medifro]

You got skill mate.

Good job coming up with stuff, although the effect is certainly done before, I really like the card skill and your enthusiasm about what you do.

Nothing wrong with re-inventing the wheel, shows that your thinking which is a very good thing. Keep working stuff out and have fun with that. Don't come off saying "original" though, because you'll never know. Just say "worked it out" and all is good. Keep working things out, even if they may be not very original, inventing an original thing is very difficult these days even more experienced magicians. So, in other words, don't invent to show off to magicians that you made something original, invent so you can perform your own stuff that you created and enjoy performing them.

I know it can be very frustrating when told "work on presentation" when you don't have alot of ideas going on, because you didn't get to check alot of magic effects and different presentational ideas, as you go in magic you'll read more and more, and ideas will flow way easier. Don't force it, it will come automatically, if that makes any sense..

So, here's a tip on presentation: You may want to work it out so you produce the kings, get a selection, return the kings and completing the effect. This makes producing the kings more logical, rather than finding them, then losing them again.

Also, I think a turnover pass would be better.

Once you've done that, perform with pride. You got advice above to add originality to it or something like that, this might be very difficult for you right now, but as you go in magic more and see more effects you will make that on your own.

Learn walking before running. So for now, get as much performing experience as you can. The more you perform, the better you will be.

I wouldn't even say master routining or anything, this will be later on on a later stage. For now, you do the sleights well ( except the last one, do a turnover instead ), perform and get experience performing. Thats the most important thing for now.

Cheers,

 

[ElisG]

Also, I think a turnover pass would be better.

Totally agree, just follow the advice of the guys here, don't use editing and work on your false cuts a bit, unless you can do the flourishy ones convincingly just use a standard D-Undercut, it's just as convincing.

Apart from the false cuts and the pass the technical side of things was good, it's also difficult to judge your presentational skills because performing for a camera is nothing like it is in real life.

ElisG.

 

[Guardian452]

You got skill mate.

Good job coming up with stuff, although the effect is certainly done before, I really like the card skill and your enthusiasm about what you do.

Nothing wrong with re-inventing the wheel, shows that your thinking which is a very good thing. Keep working stuff out and have fun with that. Don't come off saying "original" though, because you'll never know. Just say "worked it out" and all is good. Keep working things out, even if they may be not very original, inventing an original thing is very difficult these days even more experienced magicians. So, in other words, don't invent to show off to magicians that you made something original, invent so you can perform your own stuff that you created and enjoy performing them.

I know it can be very frustrating when told "work on presentation" when you don't have alot of ideas going on, because you didn't get to check alot of magic effects and different presentational ideas, as you go in magic you'll read more and more, and ideas will flow way easier. Don't force it, it will come automatically, if that makes any sense..

So, here's a tip on presentation: You may want to work it out so you produce the kings, get a selection, return the kings and completing the effect. This makes producing the kings more logical, rather than finding them, then losing them again.

Also, I think a turnover pass would be better.

Once you've done that, perform with pride. You got advice above to add originality to it or something like that, this might be very difficult for you right now, but as you go in magic more and see more effects you will make that on your own.

Learn walking before running. So for now, get as much performing experience as you can. The more you perform, the better you will be.

I wouldn't even say master routining or anything, this will be later on on a later stage. For now, you do the sleights well ( except the last one, do a turnover instead ), perform and get experience performing. Thats the most important thing for now.

Cheers,

great post. honestly, i crapped myself when i read it.

listen to this, its great advice
a turnover pass would make everything seem more natural and flow better.

and this isnt original, i came up with this

 

[M_dalgashon]

It was good, but this is not a trick you've invented, and I don't think it is right to claim it to yourself.
Next time, just say "here's a ROUTINE I've created", I think it is more appropriate.
However, the mechanics are very good, just work a bit on your pass. Also, improve the patter, it looks weird when you pop out the kings and then suddenly decide you don't need them.
And finally, the editing of the video is horrible. Why did you do all those weird FX? It doesn't add anything... On the contrary.
But, all in all, nice one, there is potential. Good luck with that!

 

[Squ!rrel]

My thoughts:

Good Points

It's a decent trick that spectators will probably find quite entertaining. While not original I guess most people start by creating effects like it, so you're thinking in the right way.

Bad Points

The editing was horrific, just completely unnecessary. The part where you lose the Kings in the deck goes on way too long, it's boring and looks awkward. Also, I don't like your attitiude, you claim that it's an 'amazing effect' when it's a standard sandwich effect that's been done hundreds of times before.

 

[dejavu05]

Good job but please ditch the opening editing. I almost stopped watching because it was very distracting.

 

[darosa.justin]

Hey, I quite liked the actual effect- the editing, as you know was terrible.

But the effect was quite nice.

Rework the presentation. Try and think of your effect on the whole- what is happening & how can I present this trick in a magical, but logical way (if that makes sense).

It's a nice variation from a sandwich routine.