value is indeed subjective, but the overall value is basically an average of the values of the buyers, NOt what the Labels put on the price sticker. Magic buyers value magic more than music buys value music. There are various reasons that I've already mentioned. as a result, they can command a higher price and expect less piracy.
I guess magic is more bullet-proof like that. Thank god most of the people who purchase magic respect the art or at least have the common sense NOT to reveal a secret on YouTube.
I wouldn't say the value is lost, but i would say it has significantly decreased. just music is not enough. not to mention, the quality of music has also decreased.
Very true. But I don't think value is a huge factor, I think it's about the lack of respect for the hardwork put into music and all that.
How many people have bought bootlegs, stole, and pirated music back in the old days? Althugh I'm not old and have not experienced these times, but I think I can say, In comparison with today, none. People we're more respectful to themselves and the conciever. Now, everyone's an ass and they feel like they can do whatever they want and they shouldn't have to pay and blah blah blah and someone created LimeWire to make it even easier to do these things.
I don't know if that last paragraph is true (last CYAN-paragraph), but I think it was better is those days because I hear testimony from several elders saying it was.
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perhaps you need to look into new legislation the RIAA and labels are trying to force. and the DMCA which they have already forced into law. It makes transcoding illegal, even for personal use.
Wow, there even making transcoding illegal? That is bull s***.
...I will also mention, the ones on labels are not terribly fond of the A&R guy that brought them in, because not all are completely honest, or if they were, they just neglected to mention a few details which would have definately reduced the likelyhood of them signing to the label.
Irony. There suing us yet, they're gonna falsely persway (not even a word) and use word-play with the artist who's music they're selling.
It seems like it's all about the money today. Noooo, a few hundred million dollors isn't enough, you got to have more. You got to monopolize everything.
The business world is a doggy-doggy world out there, that's for sure. It's dissapointing really.
Magic is the same way. If i buy an effect, usually I know or have at least talked to the creator. Or I participate on their forums. There's a line of communication open.
Yes!
A fer more side notes: please don't use colors that make it hard to read. thanks.
I must admit, dark blue IS hard to read.
The labels have made themselves the enemy. They have been resistant to change, reluctant to provide added value and have been screwing over artists for many years. To make it all worse, they've sued their customers and helped push ridiculous laws into effect. They really shouldn't be surprised that everyone is refusing to support them. They've also openly admitted to fasifying piracy figures, and have been busted numerous times for illegally using software that is licensed using GPL, by breaking licensing terms and conditions- A HUGE act of hypocrisy.
How the hell do they get away with this? These acts of hypocrisy? Surely THEY have been sued for these things, haven't they?
Of course, in today's court, they would win anyday. It's not like it matters. There are so many benefits with big business and one of them is control.
Oh yeah, and two words: Sony Rootkit.
Alot of people pirate nowadays, not out of cheapness, but out of principle.
I agree half-way. I think they pirate out of principle AND cheapness. Believe me, money is ALWAYS a factor in these kind of things.
Some of those pirates might be crazy enough to steal for hippy-style reasons or rebellion against "the man" or the business or whatever, or something but most pirates do it for the free music. Well, at least I would think they would.
In the end, they know that the collapse (or at least reorganization) of the labels will ultimately be better for the artists even if it's hurting them right now. People are not going to stop playing music because they can't profit from it, and when the current system collapses, an newer more efficient one will cater to the artists and consumers in a way that the current labels never could.
Maybe by the time the next great depression hits, everything will be better again.
This might not have any relevance but I thought it as interesting nonetheless...
You know those gas companies? There used to be like 20 of those companies around. Now there's around 5 big major ones. Why? Because they got smart. Most of them merged together to form a larger company in hopes to beat out the smaller ones. Eventually, everyone started doing this.
(I think I have these facts straight
Awhile ago, if the gas company wanted to raise the price, they would've had to justify it to a board of some sort; they would have to show why they wanted/needed to raise price to a bunch of people. Well, when the companies got larger, they turned from a U.S.A. - based company to a world-company. One of the smartest moves ever for the gas company. Why? Because they don't have to "justify" prices to a board anymore. They can do whatever the hell they want now! That's probably the reason why gas prices are so high nowadays.Big business and Mass production has changed everything. However, magic is still a respectable art. Hopefully, it will remain that way.
The only REAL threat for magic are those You(N)oob kids, and masked magicians. Maybe a few others too but those are pretty much are only threats.
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Really interesting guys. Please, keep it up.
