Celebracadabra

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This sounds idiotic to me.
I smell exposure.

Anthony Bass

It's in writing. No sleight, method, or gimmick will be knowingly exposed on the air. To do otherwise would be grounds for a lawsuit and possibly confiscation of the tapes.

Don't be so cynical.
 
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Steerpike is a one man army in this thread :cool:

I've just been reading about this over at Ellusionist. It sounds pretty damn cool to me, the only thing I'm thinking is that we probably won't get it in New Zealand. I may have to stream it over the net or find a download of it.

Cant wait.
 
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I have to agree "Phenomenon" was almost cool, but mostly lame. Any idea when "Celebracadabera" is gonna be on the air? I searched VH1.com and got nothing...
 
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dude, wouldn't t suck if somebody messed up the invisible deck? or flashed an ambitious card? these are things a lot of us probably use every day. they said no effect will be purposely exposed but you never know so...

this could be interesting
 
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Phenomenon was filmed live. Celebracadabra is not. Thus they can edit stuff out if it does flash/expose. I don't have a problem with the show. Should be interesting.
 
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Not PURPOSEFUL exposure. Kim Wyatt? Dude, you cannot honestly tell me that she's not gonna flash. Come on...

I'm doing real research on this topic, scouring news sites, the blogosphere, and any other place I can mine for information. I've dug up information on the confirmed names attached to this project. I've watched performances from people I know are going to be in this, magician and celebrity alike. And I already have a basic knowledge of videography and television production.

You... from what I can tell are going by a shallow stereotype.

One of us is making a colossal fool of himself here. I'll give you a hint: it ain't me.
 
I'm doing real research on this topic, scouring news sites, the blogosphere, and any other place I can mine for information. I've dug up information on the confirmed names attached to this project. I've watched performances from people I know are going to be in this, magician and celebrity alike. And I already have a basic knowledge of videography and television production.

You... from what I can tell are going by a shallow stereotype.

One of us is making a colossal fool of himself here. I'll give you a hint: it ain't me.

Ok, so now we're sinking to the low level of **** talking? Wow. I was not stereotyping, I was stating an opinion.
Have it your way, you win. I'm not sinking to that level.
Have a nice day. :)

Anthony Bass
 
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Oh quit your crying. If you're so thin-skinned that you blow up at me for that, I can only imagine how you react to getting a real heckler in performance.

Seriously, I can almost guarantee I've done more research on this than you have. Give me one good reason I should believe you aren't talking out of your *ss?

And don't give me that opinion defense. Opinions are not immunity. An opinion is only as good as what you back it up with. And if all you have behind it ignorance...
 
Oh quit your crying. If you're so thin-skinned that you blow up at me for that, I can only imagine how you react to getting a real heckler in performance.

Seriously, I can almost guarantee I've done more research on this than you have. Give me one good reason I should believe you aren't talking out of your *ss?

Crying? Hardly. A real heckler? I've had plenty. And none of them have called me a "colossal fool".

And yeah, you've definitely done more research than me, because honestly, I could care less about a few celebrities performing magic, as long as they're good, and don't eff up. The show still has my support, I'm just skeptical of a good outcome.

And to your last point, it's impossible to talk out of anywhere but your mouth.

Anthony Bass
 
Ok guys, I think we've had enough bickering. If we can't discuss magic without getting into an argument then this thread will probably be closed by a mod.

I always enjoy watching magic on tv, and am looking forward to the show.

Let's get back to the magic.

Mitchell

Thank you, Mitchell. If you go a few posts back, I backed down, but the crap kept coming. So please, Steerpike......drop it. It was an opinion, which I have all rights to state.

Anthony Bass
 
I don't see how either one of you can back up anything at this point...

Anthony,

You have no idea what the producers are going to show, or not show, at all. Period.

Steerpike,

Unless you want to provide your "proof" and research, you can't make any claims either.

I have no dog in this fight, but it's turning into nothing but a *****ing match where neither one of you can come out on top. And if both of you would step back a bit and look at the big picture, I don't see how any of this is an issue.

Until the show actually comes out, this is all speculation. Nothing more, nothing less. To try to argue about what the show will or will not focus on is equivalent to trying to determine what kind of president Jeb Bush would make...and we all know that if that happened, the whole world would burn alive worse than what's happening now with his brother in the White House....sheesh.

No one take this personally, but I just had to say that.

I feel a lot better now... :)
Steve
 
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Crying? Hardly. A real heckler? I've had plenty. And none of them have called me a "colossal fool".

How is not foolish to assume a person is automatically going to screw up? I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Hell, it's why I still occassionally speak in Criss Angel's defense, if in nothing other than the perspective of a professional.

And yeah, you've definitely done more research than me, because honestly, I could care less about a few celebrities performing magic, as long as they're good, and don't eff up. The show still has my support, I'm just skeptical of a good outcome.

A skeptic demands to be proven wrong.

That's why I do the research. This is going to be a hot button issue in the coming months, so I want to make sure I have the facts. I want to know what I'm talking about when it comes time to say something.

To address your problem, Kim Wylde has stated herself that she loves magic and was over the moon about this show. She took it very seriously and is encouraging her fans to support magic as well.

Furthermore, this show is already in the can. It's not being done live like Phenomenon was. Therefore, editors can find points where the camera accidentally picked up a flashed move and through the miracle of editing correct it. What do you think David Blaine has been doing for years?

And to your last point, it's impossible to talk out of anywhere but your mouth.

Please tell me that was just a bland attempt at being glib.

Steerpike,

Unless you want to provide your "proof" and research, you can't make any claims either.

If you want the links, just ask for them.
 
How is not foolish to assume a person is automatically going to screw up? I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Hell, it's why I still occassionally speak in Criss Angel's defense, if in nothing other than the perspective of a professional.



A skeptic demands to be proven wrong.

That's why I do the research. This is going to be a hot button issue in the coming months, so I want to make sure I have the facts. I want to know what I'm talking about when it comes time to say something.

To address your problem, Kim Wylde has stated herself that she loves magic and was over the moon about this show. She took it very seriously and is encouraging her fans to support magic as well.

Furthermore, this show is already in the can. It's not being done live like Phenomenon was. Therefore, editors can find points where the camera accidentally picked up a flashed move and through the miracle of editing correct it. What do you think David Blaine has been doing for years?



Please tell me that was just a bland attempt at being glib.



If you want the links, just ask for them.

Dude, are you ever gonna stop talking crap, or is it just part of your everyday life? How about we grow up (note: I said we not just you, so don't go *****ing at me about that too) and drop it?

And no, it wasn't "a bland attempt at being glib", it was the one reason you asked for.

Anthony Bass
 
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