For one, dont ever call me homeslice. if you think i was speaking to you or anyone that wasn't named Homeslice- like the poster i was talking to WAS, then you're sadly mistaken. I did watch his ****ty show, i watched most of Season 2 with people that would be considered 'LAY PERSONS', and even they laughed at the stuff he tried to pull off.
You taking what i said as pure literal just proves that the Angel kids are running out of arguments. Sorry i wasn't EXACTLY LITERAL on how he conveys his stuff to be real when it obviously isn't to his audience (over the television). To me it's an isult to human intelligence the way he tries to act like his floating across 2 buildings and walking on water are REAL.
I think it was you, i dont know- the angel kids run together but someone was talking about how they should take their spec aside after a card trick and show them, blah blah blah. Whatever it was it was a horrible comparison.
You do a card trick you aren't editing anything, you aren't claiming you have black magic powers; you let the spec decide either way. You walk around boasting about how you can walk down the side of a building/float building-to-building/vanish an elephant in front of 'random people' and try to play it off as real- that's just insulting and the ONLY 'lay persons' that buy into that stupid stuff are people that are insanely gullible and will believe anything they dont take 5 seconds to think about and understand.
As you told me before, don't be so bold as to classify people. As of yet I still haven't said whether I'm a true fan of Criss Angel's and you have already lumped me into a group. And you use Angel Kids as an insult, pretty childish man.
To my knowledge he has never claimed to be able to do those stage tricks outside of a stage or his show. Your spinning it like he walks around all day telling everybody he can do all those things whenever he pleases.
By your logic all magic is an insult to human intelligence. Clearly he's not really flying or walking on water, but he's creating the illusion that he is. Everyone knows it defies the laws of physics, and cannot be done without trickery. In the same way I can't really transpose two objects or levitate for real. Guess we're all performing for a world of idiots, right?
I made the comment about pulling a spectator aside and disclosing the method. It was pertaining more to the fact that he uses stooges and/or rigs, though I may not have been entirely clear. You said he should be honest about all his methods. He uses stooges and/or rigs to pull off those tricks, he shouldn't present it as real to his audience. In the same way, if I do a trick, say Invisible Deck, if it involves anything other than a fair, unaltered deck of cards, I should not present it as being a fair deck of cards. Because thats claiming I can do something I clearly cannot do, I should be honest with my audience. For many tricks, if not all, you either convince your audience everything is legit or they assume it is, even if it isn't. I guess my analogy does work for editing as well. I have an altered deck which I present as real, he has altered video footage which he presents as real. You should be able to understand that. This follows through to the very basics of magic. Can't do a double lift without making your spectator believe you only have one card.
You also can't argue that he's not doing magic because he's really only putting on an act. There are many tricks that are basically self working, all you need to do is work on presentation to make it "real" to your spectator. And by using stooges, editing, and performing, he's presenting tricks, that may not be done otherwise, to a
television audience.
I do like the suggestion someone made about going out and doing it better, though.
