Four Card control techniques

Fredrick H. · Mar 8, 2016

Some interesting conversation is developing, but I thought I would jump back in here. I currently have found a Tom Stone control in his book "Vortex" to fit my routine the best but I modified it a little bit. However, this has definitely given me a new area to research into. It seems like a lot of these moves are very useful given the right time and place and as always personal preference.

sidesquare · Mar 11, 2016

mclintock said:
Who cares if someone else found a problem with a move? If someone has done a move for several years in front of countless people successfully then why does it matter if someone else found issues with it?

You're right man. Take care.

sidesquare · Mar 25, 2016

sidesquare said:
You're right man. Take care.

But you have to realize that people get smarter and smarter. The cow around the barn trick might have worked before but it doesn't now.

RealityOne · Mar 25, 2016

sidesquare said:
Doesn't John Bannon talk about the problems with the Elias-Shift in his book?

Bannon says 'The Elias Multiple Shift is one of the best -- if not the best -- in the hands Multiple Shift.... It is also one of the most versitile Multiple Shifts around." Dear Mr. Fantasy, p. 120.

Bannon's only critique is that the Elias shift is typically explained as needing the cards inserted in the top half of the deck. John's variation eliminates that requirement.

MarcoLostSomething · Mar 29, 2016

Maybe you've already found what's best for you, but to broaden your possibilities i'd mention the diagonal palm shift, that can be done with more than 1 card (for a non-table control), and the nash multiple shift (from a table).
If you're working on a table routine, i'd go with the last one

CrazyClement · Mar 31, 2016

Straddle Pass is pretty good.

Scarlett12 · Apr 7, 2016

The lanes are loosely connected by a jungle, allowing you to cut across from one lane to another. The jungle is home to many tight, twisty corridors, so it’s not a great place to get caught unprepared.

Prof_Utonium · Apr 7, 2016

I recently found another multiple shift that I really like: "Totally under control" from Scott Robinson´s 2012 lecture notes "Varied Methods". It´s a really cool combination of the Veeser Bluff Shift with Pulp Friction. The nice thing about it is that the shift is already done when the outjogged cards are being squared.
If someone is looking this one up, here´s a thought: I think the "Shoplift" sleight from Tyler Wilsons book "Reinventing the real" makes a very nice improvement to the Veeser Bluff Shift.