Printer Mystery?

Mattster11

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Oct 3, 2017
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Hi JB and Casey,

First off let me say that I’m a huge fan of you guys and have been a T11 customer since 2017. You were the first company I bought luxury cards from and those first cards I bought are still some of my favorite cards to this day. Thanks for all your contributions to the magic and playing card world!

My question is regarding the disclosure or lack there of (lately) about where your cards are printed. I always loved the way your cards handled but as of the past few years I’ve noticed a change and I can’t say I’m a fan of the way many of the newer cards handle (and smell for that matter haha) I can tell you’re printing cards overseas but I never see it in the ad copy. You used to say “made in the USA” or “proudly printed by USPCC” etc.. I haven’t seen that with the newer offerings.

Is there a reason you guys moved more away from USPCC?

Is there a reason you can’t share where you’re currently printing cards?

Is there a reason you don’t list where in the ad copy?

It has caused me to stop buying cards that don’t explicitly state USPCC because I just don’t end up picking the cards up and using them due to the card preferences I’ve loved for years. High quality USPCC.

I would really love to know if you:
A. Plan on using USPCC more in the future.
B. If you would state that in the ad copy for people like me that would be much more likely to purchase if made in USA.
And C. Why you don’t share where the cards printed overseas are being printed. Because a lot of people like to know to be able to keep track of what stocks/finishes they like etc..

I look forward to hearing from you and I also speak for many of my friends who feel similarly. Thank you. - Matt
 

CaseyRudd

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Hey Matt, happy to chime in here! The majority of our decks have always been made at USPC, but certain production methods are not currently possible there - usually decks that involve intricate foil on the cards themselves (ie, Piracy, LOTR Gold Edition, 007 Silver, etc), more than 6 colors (we always try to print spot color instead of CMYK whenever possible), and sometimes, printers just don't have the bandwidth to print as quickly as we need. We've worked with multiple printers over the past decade - USPC, Expert, and others - but always with perfect fanning and faro functionality, as quality is our number one requirement.

I've had playing cards in my hands almost every hour of every day for 17 years now, so the feel and finish of our decks is (and always will be) our top priority. We don't compromise on our production standards, but sometimes to achieve the look we want, we use multiple printers to ensure the best quality final result to capture the intended design and production methods.
 

Mattster11

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Oct 3, 2017
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Hey Matt, happy to chime in here! The majority of our decks have always been made at USPC, but certain production methods are not currently possible there - usually decks that involve intricate foil on the cards themselves (ie, Piracy, LOTR Gold Edition, 007 Silver, etc), more than 6 colors (we always try to print spot color instead of CMYK whenever possible), and sometimes, printers just don't have the bandwidth to print as quickly as we need. We've worked with multiple printers over the past decade - USPC, Expert, and others - but always with perfect fanning and faro functionality, as quality is our number one requirement.

I've had playing cards in my hands almost every hour of every day for 17 years now, so the feel and finish of our decks is (and always will be) our top priority. We don't compromise on our production standards, but sometimes to achieve the look we want, we use multiple printers to ensure the best quality final result to capture the intended design and production methods.
Appreciate the response Casey, however I’m still curious why then you don’t list the printer? It can be very misleading because take a deck like the silver artisans., clearly says United States of America on the sides of the tuck case, but are the cards printed at uspcc? No right? So someone expecting a certain quality of handling and performance would be left disappointed. So why not just list it in the ad copy so customers can choose which printers they prefer the handling and feel of? Not tying to be combative at all.. just genuinely curious why it needs to be so hush hush.
 
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