Sorry, but this must be said...

[David Rackley]

Ok seriously I have sat back in my chair long enough without doing anything about this. I am so sick and tired of E-Kids(and don't you all act like you don't know what I mean by that), and of people exposing and making horrible and pointless videos. This must be stopped. Everyone who says they agree with me is always like, "oh this is terrible someone should do something about that". Everyone always has something to say but never anything to do about it. Well ITS TIME TO START DOIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I mean.....come one seriously...do we not respect what a GREAT art this is? I don't about you, but I just can't take this anymore. Magic is something sacred, it has done so many things. Magic has even stopped rebellions from happening in foreign countries.(dont believe me?...you can read about it in David Blaine's book, Mysterious Stranger).

THIS MUST STOP. It is time that we as TRUE magicians do something to stop this. We must make a difference other wise, the audience will just think of magic as something pointless and stupid. Thats how my parents thing about it. When I told them that I wanted to do magic for the rest of my life they laughed at me and said magic is for little kids. And I think all of us on these forums know how people like our parents or anyone for that matter that says stuff like that, where they got that idea...

Theory11 does not exsist so that people can put vids up to get their 15 seconds of fame. And those idiots(yes idiots) who post lame videos on youtube should be ASHAMED of themselves for treating this art with such distain and disrespect.

I do not wish to seem harsh or rude, but I think is time that some sort of action must be taken to preserve our great art, or else everything we are trying to accomplish, everything that people from theory11 are trying to accomplish will be for nothing.

My hope is that TRUE magicians can come together and do what should be done and that is to truly create and show what an amazing art magic is to people. Thank you and I hope that this will show something to those who do not know what they are doing, and to those what are being stupid and very imature and do know what they are doing. THIS MUST BE STOPPED. Thank you and I hope that this may be an encouragement to those who are trying to learn this great art...THE RIGHT WAY.

Thank you Theory11 for what you are trying to do. I just want you all at T11 to know that there are people who truly understand what it is that all of you are trying to do. And that is to teach those who TRULY WILLING TO LEARN...THE RIGHT WAY.

 

[sidrohc]

Amen bro. I am VERY willing to do something. I just don't know what.

 

[VJmagicMan]

yup...i hear you

 

[Krash]

Ok seriously I have sat back in my chair long enough without doing anything about this. I am so sick and tired of E-Kids(and don't you all act like you don't know what I mean by that), and of people exposing and making horrible and pointless videos. This must be stopped. Everyone who says they agree with me is always like, "oh this is terrible someone should do something about that". Everyone always has something to say but never anything to do about it. Well ITS TIME TO START DOIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I mean.....come one seriously...do we not respect what a GREAT art this is? I don't about you, but I just can't take this anymore. Magic is something sacred, it has done so many things. Magic has even stopped rebellions from happening in foreign countries.(dont believe me?...you can read about it in David Blaine's book, Mysterious Stranger).

THIS MUST STOP. It is time that we as TRUE magicians do something to stop this. We must make a difference other wise, the audience will just think of magic as something pointless and stupid. Thats how my parents thing about it. When I told them that I wanted to do magic for the rest of my life they laughed at me and said magic is for little kids. And I think all of us on these forums know how people like our parents or anyone for that matter that says stuff like that, where they got that idea...

Theory11 does not exsist so that people can put vids up to get their 15 seconds of fame. And those idiots(yes idiots) who post lame videos on youtube should be ASHAMED of themselves for treating this art with such distain and disrespect.

I do not wish to seem harsh or rude, but I think is time that some sort of action must be taken to preserve our great art, or else everything we are trying to accomplish, everything that people from theory11 are trying to accomplish will be for nothing.

My hope is that TRUE magicians can come together and do what should be done and that is to truly create and show what an amazing art magic is to people. Thank you and I hope that this will show something to those who do not know what they are doing, and to those what are being stupid and very imature and do know what they are doing. THIS MUST BE STOPPED. Thank you and I hope that this may be an encouragement to those who are trying to learn this great art...THE RIGHT WAY.

Thank you Theory11 for what you are trying to do. I just want you all at T11 to know that there are people who truly understand what it is that all of you are trying to do. And that is to teach those who TRULY WILLING TO LEARN...THE RIGHT WAY.

Okay.

You're probably the 5, 789th person to bring this topic up. I'm all for it. I do only have one question for you however.

What's your plan?

Shane K.

 

[David Rackley]

Lets start by reporting every video on youtube that stinks and has anything to do with good sites such as E and Theory11. Also I suggest that we try to get the help of Theory11 to make our own video saying that exposure will not be tollerated anymore. If Theory11 helps us then it will be a very good video that those idiots who are doing what they are doing out there, that we will get there attention. Please I must have people rally with me to this cause. Iam tired of all of this exposure. Its wrong. Thank you for your help.

 

[David Rackley]

Please feel free to pm me with any ideas that you may have. If we all work together than I truly believe that Youtube/exposure and anything like it can be stopped...for good. Again Thank you.

 

[Dizzi]

I hate public exposure. But It's not illeagal. thats the thing.

 

[Krash]

Lets start by reporting every video on youtube that stinks and has anything to do with good sites such as E and Theory11. Also I suggest that we try to get the help of Theory11 to make our own video saying that exposure will not be tollerated anymore. If Theory11 helps us then it will be a very good video that those idiots who are doing what they are doing out there, that we will get there attention. Please I must have people rally with me to this cause. Iam tired of all of this exposure. Its wrong. Thank you for your help.

This has been attempted before. It probably wont do too much as far as help. Do you have any other ideas? As I said before, I'm all for it, but I don't think there is much that can actually be done about it.

The only real thing we can do is become more creative than those lil' kids on youtube. Change our methods, or even come up with several methods for the same effect. It's all about staying 10 steps ahead of the heckler/exposure.

Shane K.

 

[David Rackley]

Just because it is not "illegal" does not mean that its ok. THIS MUST BE STOPPED and we need all the help we can get. And I say that Theory11 should help us. I know that I may be bold for saying that, but its how I feel.

 

[DeckCheck]

Ok i am totally in. I am so pissied off with kids holding decks that are too big for their hands and perforing for you tube and giving away the secret. i saw a video of some 11 year old teaching a double lift, but it was a crappy double lift. why would he teach that. My friends have recently come up to me and said i know how you find a card in a certain way cause iwatched a video on you tube, its kl though cause now i do different false shuffles and cuts etc.. but still the simple one work well, untill now, the fact that a daft kid put it on the net.

If you have a plan i will be in.

 

[David Rackley]

No here is what should be done. Sites such as Theory11 must be kept more secret...and I know there are a million things that could be said to go against that but I truly think it must be done. Its like if you cut off the water supply then eventually whatever is inhabiting it will go away or die out or stop. See what I mean?

 

[Jack The Magician]

There was an attempt to petition Youtube to remove exposure videos. However, the attempt never came into fruition, and did not receive the necessary momentum. Here is the thread:http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?t=446&highlight=youtube+petition. Maybe something along those lines will suffice.

Cheers,
JTM

 

[AceOfSpades2662]

Ok look someone just hear me out.
I'm a kid im 13 and i dont think its just kids who do stuff like that to put the blame on kids like me im all for trying to stuff exposure even though i am a kid. It;s not just kids out there who do stuff like this Its horrible.
I hope im not the only kid on these forums

 

[David Rackley]

No what Im sayin is that instead of concentrating so much on getting rid of E-kids(ha ha I call them that cuz they remind me of Halokids...) and "petitioning on youtube" we should concentrate more on concealing and hiding what is out there. Theory11 must find a way to be more secret. We must take this msg to heart, "It Must Be Protected By Those Who Recieve It".

 

[David Rackley]

Ok please seriously think for just a second man. We are not blaming anything on you. What we mean by E-kids is that they are dumb people who are yes mostly kids your age, who are exposing and making poor horrible videos of themselves sitting in a chair going "PLEASE PLEASE MAKE SURE MY PASS IS GOOD".

I am glad that someone of your age understands what this is about though. Hey don't get down there is always hope that this can be stopped Thanks man and good luck

 

[Jacob]

One major thing that would work but probably never happen is to make it a law. Or to explain to Youtube our situation and try to make it a rule.

 

[David Rackley]

Hey don't sell that one short. Anything is possible if we as true magicians can come together and try our best to stop this. Thanks man...good post.

 

[The Dark Angel]

If Prince can't get Youtube to take down his copyrighted material, why would anyone else be any more succesful?
Unless we were to claim that it somehow contained child pornography, then they won't take it down.

 

[David Rackley]

Yeah I saw all of those and I was about to scream in rage. But like I'm sayin its not about what we can do to youtube, but about keeping Theory11 and other big sites more secret. THEORY11 PLEASE HELP US!!!!!!!

 

[Dizzi]

Guys...a tutorial made by someone is not copyrighted. Methods of something cannot be copyrighted. Only the video./text that teaches it. and if it's text, as long as it's not in the exact words of someone else, it's legal as well.