Superiority Complex

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When we learn something by ourself, we respect it a lot more and develop a sense of pride in doing what we do. There's nothing wrong with it at all.

The problem is that we also develop a bit of a superiority complex. Sometimes we want to attract attention to ourselves in different ways, wanting to telegraph to others on a subtle level that we too, can do 'it' (in our case, often the 'it' is magic).

These tactics range from commenting on magician's videos, even if not the secret then how 'what they did was really flawless, though we know how it was done'' or ''the DL was really clean'' or ''I can't do a pass that well!".

This issue was addressed by the You Tuber known as PigCake too. But I want to add on it.

Sometimes when we meet a magician in real life or online, we often end up judging them. And we do so on arbitrary factors.

Say, we ask them who their favourite magicians are, and they don't even know huge names in magic like Dai Vernon or Max Malini, or maybe they learn from You Tube (a sensitive topic, but I don't want to get into it particularly. I had to touch on it because it matters too), or maybe they spell ''sleights'' wrong, or maybe they have been in magic for a significantly lesser time than us. Maybe they don't know the name of the colour change they do, maybe they don't know the origin of a sleight, or call things by wrong names.

If all the above is true, the magician you're talking to is ignorant. They also aren't really a magician to idolise, and won't make for a fulfilling conversation on magic.

But that doesn't mean they aren't good magicians.

Not knowing the names of people or sleights doesn't necessarily mean they perform the sleights terribly, or that their magic is weak. Again, they haven't yet discovered the true joys of learning magic, yes, but they aren't inferior.

I just put it out there, as a soft reminder, mostly for me but also for others, since it's natural to attach a bit of pride with what we teach ourselves. We must remember to be humble. Many books and magicians discuss how to remain grounded and humble before non-magicians and those who don't know how to perform magic, but rarely does the discussion of how we behave with fellow magicians comes up.

Please reply if you have any strong thoughts about this!

Cheers!

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or maybe they spell ''sleights'' wrong


Not knowing the names of people or sleights doesn't necessarily mean they perform the sleights terribly, or that their magic is weak.

True. Though I can only think of one person who was what I would consider "Good" who hadn't seriously studied magic, the knowledge of history and such is not intrinsically linked to the ability to entertain with sleight of hand.
 
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When we learn something by ourself, we respect it a lot more and develop a sense of pride in doing what we do. There's nothing wrong with it at all.

The problem is that we also develop a bit of a superiority complex. Sometimes we want to attract attention to ourselves in different ways, wanting to telegraph to others on a subtle level that we too, can do 'it' (in our case, often the 'it' is magic).

These tactics range from commenting on magician's videos, even if not the secret then how 'what they did was really flawless, though we know how it was done'' or ''the DL was really clean'' or ''I can't do a pass that well!".

This issue was addressed by the You Tuber known as PigCake too. But I want to add on it.

Sometimes when we meet a magician in real life or online, we often end up judging them. And we do so on arbitrary factors.

Say, we ask them who their favourite magicians are, and they don't even know huge names in magic like Dai Vernon or Max Malini, or maybe they learn from You Tube (a sensitive topic, but I don't want to get into it particularly. I had to touch on it because it matters too), or maybe they spell ''sleights'' wrong, or maybe they have been in magic for a significantly lesser time than us. Maybe they don't know the name of the colour change they do, maybe they don't know the origin of a sleight, or call things by wrong names.

If all the above is true, the magician you're talking to is ignorant. They also aren't really a magician to idolise, and won't make for a fulfilling conversation on magic.

But that doesn't mean they aren't good magicians.

Not knowing the names of people or sleights doesn't necessarily mean they perform the sleights terribly, or that their magic is weak. Again, they haven't yet discovered the true joys of learning magic, yes, but they aren't inferior.

I just put it out there, as a soft reminder, mostly for me but also for others, since it's natural to attach a bit of pride with what we teach ourselves. We must remember to be humble. Many books and magicians discuss how to remain grounded and humble before non-magicians and those who don't know how to perform magic, but rarely does the discussion of how we behave with fellow magicians comes up.

Please reply if you have any strong thoughts about this!

Cheers!

:)

I have an IG where I upload magic videos.. but its also very bussiness oriented... so I have lots of clients and companies following me... whenever I see a comment of a magician comenting that he caught me or knows how it works I just delete him/her... and if they continue I block them... the reason is that mi IG is NOT for magicians..but laypeople...

It sureluy depends on what kind of audience you are aimed to... if you do magic for magicians, you are going to get a lot of negativity because of other magicians ego.. I strongly suggest to any magician to stop caring about what other magicians have to say about his magic... because most of the criticism is aimed to either mock or try to put you down... of course there is some magicians that will actively try to help you... but there are very scarce...
 
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commenting on magician's videos,

All social media is an attempt to draw attention to yourself.

Sometimes when we meet a magician in real life or online, we often end up judging them. And we do so on arbitrary factors.

I don't think some of the factors we use are necessarily arbitrary but rather they serve as a proxy. Knowledge about magic, including names of magicians and names of moves, and learning from sources beyond YouTube show a level of dedication and a level of respect for the art.

But that doesn't mean they aren't good magicians.

Of course not. BUT, those are indications that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Why is that? Because being good magician requires a lot of work (practice, character development, scripting, research, rehearsal, theory, etc.) and if they are putting in that work they would develop that knowledge. I think a more accurate sentiment is that we shouldn't judge their potential as magicians used on initial impressions because that is limited only by their willing to put in their hard work. Instead, just steer them in the right direction and help them get better if they are willing work for it.
 
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True. Though I can only think of one person who was what I would consider "Good" who hadn't seriously studied magic, the knowledge of history and such is not intrinsically linked to the ability to entertain with sleight of hand.
Hey, to be really honest, there is no dearth of people who spell it as 'slights' or 'sleieieghts' or any other combination of e and i that you can imagine! :D

Yes, I don't think it's possible for magician to be really that 'good' unless they know the basics in theory and about their community too, but I also think it helps if we prepare ourselves to not be judgemental and weigh everybody in a just manner. You say that magic exists only in the performance and the audience's mind (I'm going to quote that everywhere I go, I love it so much, so excuse me) then hypothetically speaking, there could exist a magician who is good ENOUGH to create magic in the audience's mind even if they aren't a well-rounded magician in all aspects.

and if they continue I block them... the reason is that mi IG is NOT for magicians..but laypeople...
But doesn't that stop you from, as they put it, finding your 'tribe' in social media? Just curious... Because ultimately the ones who care about magic the most are, well, magicians (?).


Knowledge about magic, including names of magicians and names of moves, and learning from sources beyond YouTube show a level of dedication and a level of respect for the art.
Very true.

Instead, just steer them in the right direction and help them get better if they are willing work for it.
I'm just curious (again), does this sort of behaviour ever come off as unwanted and 'showing off' rather than honestly wanting to help somebody?
 

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But doesn't that stop you from, as they put it, finding your 'tribe' in social media? Just curious... Because ultimately the ones who care about magic the most are, well, magicians (?).

I have follow a tactic since the begining of my magic career... and it´s that I don´t really care about magicians in general... nor the big or small community... I mean this in the way that I concentrate on my style, my work and my bussiness (since magic is a bussiness for me) and don´t pay attention on the fads, styles, current top tricks or famous magicians...

That has allow me to create a particular style... and I have multiple ways of doing magic (corporate magic, tradeshows, teambuilding and even magic objects) because I combine and create in ways that is not normal in the magic community in general... things like combining architecture and magic, paint art with magic..or motivational magic, etc...

My "tribe" would be the clients and people in general that like to watch magic and they do care a lot about magic, because you make them care, but also don´t really want to learn magic... I do have some magician friends... but I try to have many kinds of artists in my niche.. like musicians, artists, bussiness people, etc... trust me.. in the long run, it pays off...
 

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hypothetically speaking, there could exist a magician who is good ENOUGH to create magic in the audience's mind even if they aren't a well-rounded magician in all aspects.

Yes, hypothetically. Just unlikely.

As RealityOne said - it's not a judgment of the person, per se. However an estimate of the person's skills can be made from the knowledge and if someone doesn't have that knowledge I won't have much of an expectation for them.
 
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