Why I do close-up...

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There is a difference between having done something and doing something.

What he's done in the past is very good.

What he did do tonight was bad.

Sorry if I came off as arrogant; it's hard to convey tone through text. Just read what I initially wrote with me sounding disappointed. Maybe that'll help. Or read it like Sir Bedevere; that'll make it interesting.

For the record, I already know who this guy is. I saw his stuff before when I was little--he performs a lot in N.O. I was excited at first, but then was disappointed. I really am quite sad about the whole thing.

But it was still a bad performance.

Look: the reason I keep pushing at this is becuase I am so sure beyond any doubt, that if any one of you had been at that perfromance tonight, you would agree with me.

I'm honestly not doing this to create controversy. It's because I noticed a problem with something I saw and I think it needs to be addressed. I'm not saying I could have done better--I don't do stage magic--I do close-up and I do it for a reason, because I know how. But I can still see problems, And tonight I saw one. I thought I saw the root of the problem, and I'm pretty certian I still do. Is that so wrong?
 
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"Who are you (please and thanks) to judge what stage I'm at to judge."

Those are your words and I wonder who you are to judge this other magician.
I do not understand why someone would publicly dis another magician. Sure maybe the guy had a bad show but why would you bring it up and tell everybody. Hey people thought Doug Henning dressed to weired but it worked for him.
It comes down to credibility and we have nothing to judge yours on.
 
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"Who are you (please and thanks) to judge what stage I'm at to judge."

Those are your words and I wonder who you are to judge this other magician.
I do not understand why someone would publicly dis another magician. Sure maybe the guy had a bad show but why would you bring it up and tell everybody. Hey people thought Doug Henning dressed to weired but it worked for him.
It comes down to credibility and we have nothing to judge yours on.

Because that's what we do here. We discuss magic. Good magic and bad magic.

If I see bad magic and think I know why it was bad, I should be able to discuss it here. It was a magic forum the last time I checked.

I personally don't think that posting the same damn questions about wynn cards over and over is productive. So I started a thread where I might actually be able to discuss what I view to be a problem--not knowing and adapting to one's audience. I think close-up magic has an easier time of this.

Wait, who the hell are you?
 
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you think he should quit from seeing ONE performance of his?
your a litttle *****, im sure youve had bad performances before, and im sure noone, after seeing those performances has told you to quit magic.
and if they have...you deserved it
 
Guys...

While I agree he came off the wrong way, I don't hate him for it. Seriously...let's not get personal and start swearing at the kid. He made a mistake, and hopefully he'll learn from it. If he does, then he's made my week.

Longman,

I don't hate you. Really...I don't. I don't think anyone here does. But I'll say I thought you were out of line criticizing him the way you did. Let's leave it at that bro. ;)

Best.
Steve
 
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Look.

I've already apologized for coming off as arrogant.

That doesn't, however, change my opinion of the performance. I never said he should quit. I said I didn't like it.

I haven't tried to attack any of you. So why are you taking it all so personally?

Again, I apologize, but I stick by my opinion.
 
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Guys,

I closed this thread by request of Longman. There's no need for anyone to attack or bash any member. Let's civilly, professionally, courteously share our ideas and opinions with each other.

Cool?

JTM
 
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