Magic is Dead - Clarification

Aug 31, 2007
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Originally Posted by wasabiisntgreen View Post
If the "eat the deck trick" is supposed to be real then why would anyone in their right mind use a deck of wynns when bikes are way cheaper and easier to get? Just a thought...

Well, you know, the wynns have a much better flavor then the bikes. The bikes have a gamey taste to them. The wynns, though! Ahhh! Jucey and very tender.

So the choice to eat wynns instead of bikes was because the wynns have a far superior flavor. Why eat hamburger when you can afford steak?




....sorry I couldn't resist..... :D
 
Oct 19, 2007
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Why should he? He's DM's manager. Is that the best reply you could come up with after reading his post?

well I thought he was part of the group if he's not then I was mistaken but your making it sound like I should have a "worthy" question for him and what about his post he said everything that was true and he said if we had any questions post them up and I posted a question so whats the big deal ur making something bigger than it has to be
 
Dec 22, 2007
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well I thought he was part of the group if he's not then I was mistaken but your making it sound like I should have a "worthy" question for him and what about his post he said everything that was true and he said if we had any questions post them up and I posted a question so whats the big deal ur making something bigger than it has to be

My bad. I thought you were one of the people attacking magicisdead and the best reply you could come up with was"have you ever shown your face" as if some how trying to say R3 has no credibilty in the magic world. Again I apologize.
 
Oct 19, 2007
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o lol its ok I understand that was creeper and someone else but really I was actually enjoying this conversation it was funny but really those vids actually where pretty cool expecally G's other vid with all those effects
 
Dec 14, 2007
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So what is Magic is dead?
At the moment daniel is using the MiD website to support, help and mentor beginners and/or up-and-coming performers who he sees potential in. Apart from being an artist, d+M also manages 12 magicians in the UK (a few of whom are linked at d+Ms site.) All of the 12 performers are real performers; meaning that they work as performers, they do not spend their time in forums answering to remarks from people who spend everyday in forums and they do not perform magic for your approval, their magic is for laypeople and clientele.

The artists spoken of in this thread are linked to MiD through their videos, which is their way of showing their respect to the foundation that supports them.

R

Is this to mean that these videos reflect what these "real world" performers are presenting on a regular basis to the clientèle made up of laypeople? Are these their "promo clips" as it were?

Seeking clarification,

Brad Henderson
 
Dec 22, 2007
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Is this to mean that these videos reflect what these "real world" performers are presenting on a regular basis to the clientèle made up of laypeople? Are these their "promo clips" as it were?

Seeking clarification,

Brad Henderson


i wonder if god exists.......
 
Sep 1, 2007
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R3man, thanks for the reply, but you failed to mention my biggest problem with Magic is Dead, camera tricks.


And I don't think that I am causing magic to be "dead" Magic isn't dead, it never has, and I doubt it ever will be. I'm just a kid having fun, whats the harm in that?

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful, its just the way I felt. After reading your post, I have changed my opinion on some things.
 
Jan 23, 2008
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Leeds, UK
I have no intentions of making a a name for myself, THOUGHTS only included me because d+M refused to take the credit for my ideas. I have a great face for radio

I guess the videos are somewhat experimental, in my opinion, for developing artists in magic they've both got a lot of potential, as stated earlier, they're not here for the magic industry, they're being mentored through the beginning of their careers as aspiring working magicians. They both have different goals and different ideas in magic which i guess are being portrayed through their own sites. I do relate to how one may assume that the videos that end with 'magicisdead.com' are representations of MiD, but at the moment MiD is nothing more than peoples perceptions mixed with speculation, there's never been any information at the site to assume otherwise and there aren't any OFFICIAL MiD videos, if there were, d+M would have been a part of them. I guess i can't really answer any questions regarding any artists but i can do my best to answer on their behalf. I've spent time with each artist and they all have key things that d+M looks for and respects; the right attitude, ambition, goals and above all, opinion/thoughts on magic.

To clarify further, offered to the becoming magicians by d+M is mainly advice and web-space, no artist involved with d+M represents MiD, not even d himself and nor does MiD represent any artist, at the moment all MiD is, is available webspace for people that d+M is helping, whether it's magicisdead.com/Whoever or danielmadison.co.uk/whoever, it's just a platform for a personal d+M venture until those artist find their ways and develop their own platforms.

d+M and I are yet to decide what to do with the MAGICisDEAD.com site, any suggestions?
 
Jan 23, 2008
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Leeds, UK
Hey filth0013, is that spam or an indirect attack at somebody simply trying to answer peoples questions? Either way it's quite irrelevant

RE Camera tricks, like i've said 2ce now, the vids aint fo magis, they're performance vids, but maybe you need to ask the artists on those fronts. In speculation only, i think the Eat The Deck video speaks for itself, yup the deck has to be vanished and this is off screen, why? Well why the hell would we want to see the deck being disposed of onscreen? This is a real effect by the way and nonetheless the trick that got d+M's attention, when you see it in real life you'll change your mind. One lesson to be learnt here is that there's a huge difference between magic in real life and magic on film... one of the main reasons we rarely see d+M performing on film.

To sum up the camera-tricks question, you best ask the artists for it is they alone who are responsible for their vids.
 
Aug 31, 2007
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Yeah, I have a suggestion.
As crazy as this might sound, why don't the artists who really care about magic, make a website that is heavily guarded and expose their own effects. (Not other artists effects, their own)
Like everyone here probably has one good trick that they made of themselves. Why not teach it to other magicians who have a passion for magic just as you?

Best part would be it's a magicians only site. No laymen trying to get the tricks from here because they cant. "A Magicians Youtube" so to speak. For us by us.

Is that morally wrong?
Why do we need to slap on a price tag to make a trick into a bona fide effect?
I might get slammed for this, but it's how I feel. Why can't magicians teach other?
DM does it with 12 magicians.
Why cant we show/release our own effects?
 
Jan 23, 2008
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Leeds, UK
Great idea DannyT, i think one thing that can kill magic is the price, this concept wil definatelly be in the top 5

The '12' aren't a group as such, just the amount of people d is helping/managing/mentoring at the minute, only 4 of the said live in the UK
 

bentley

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Nov 23, 2007
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Hey filth0013, is that spam or an indirect attack at somebody simply trying to answer peoples questions? Either way it's quite irrelevant

RE Camera tricks, like i've said 2ce now, the vids aint fo magis, they're performance vids, but maybe you need to ask the artists on those fronts. In speculation only, i think the Eat The Deck video speaks for itself, yup the deck has to be vanished and this is off screen, why? Well why the hell would we want to see the deck being disposed of onscreen? This is a real effect by the way and nonetheless the trick that got d+M's attention, when you see it in real life you'll change your mind. One lesson to be learnt here is that there's a huge difference between magic in real life and magic on film... one of the main reasons we rarely see d+M performing on film.

To sum up the camera-tricks question, you best ask the artists for it is they alone who are responsible for their vids.
David Blaine did an effect that used the same move. Someone picked a card and put in back in the deck and David Blaine says it will go in his pocket each time it isn't and eventually the deck is in his pocket and the one card in his hand is their card. He did it on screen and it can be done but takes misdirection of course but it can be done. I am not defending or opposing the website but just saying it can be done.
 
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