Most skilled person

Sep 1, 2007
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Brian Tudor is probably the fastest but not the most skilled, many of his cuts are very similar and are nowhere near as creative as Dan and Dave.

I agree with you on the second part of the sentence, but judging on skill alone, I have to say Tudor, his performances are awful and he's not as creative as Dan and Dave etc. but i'd say he has most skill.
 
Apr 28, 2008
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I agree with you on the second part of the sentence, but judging on skill alone, I have to say Tudor, his performances are awful and he's not as creative as Dan and Dave etc. but i'd say he has most skill.

I guess that depends on your definition of skill. I would consider creativity a skill a as well. In pure technical skill he is the best but in skill in other ares there are quite a few people above him.
 
Nov 1, 2007
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Jerry Cestkowski, quite obviously. And it's not a matter of opinion or personal preference. He's the most skilled with cards. If Jerry's not your vote, you're simply not educated enough on the subject.
 

BrianationX

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ibrian tudor he is hell fast, a freaking nuts card cheat, and a kick butt magician, not to mention one of the flourishing fathers lol.... others would be bone, dan and dave, daren, and :

You are totally right
No one is faster than him
NO ONE!
And the reason he doesn't do all those pretty looking or "creative" flourishes
as some of you say
is because They always end up being smooth and
Smooth=Slow


"I don't think one person is the most skilled...every individual can do certain things that no one else can. You guys are also forgetting to mention a skill demon though....Bone Ho and Ali Al Basri. Those guys are nucking futs."


Actually Your are wrong
There is always someone that is better than the other (skilled)
Brian Tudor?
I would consider him to be more skilled than me
I accept the fact because no one is faster than him
No One
not even me.
 
You are totally right
No one is faster than him
NO ONE!
And the reason he doesn't do all those pretty looking or "creative" flourishes
as some of you say
is because They always end up being smooth and
Smooth=Slow


"I don't think one person is the most skilled...every individual can do certain things that no one else can. You guys are also forgetting to mention a skill demon though....Bone Ho and Ali Al Basri. Those guys are nucking futs."


Actually Your are wrong
There is always someone that is better than the other (skilled)
Brian Tudor?
I would consider him to be more skilled than me
I accept the fact because no one is faster than him
No One
not even me.

Wow I can't believe you weren't banned.
 
Oct 28, 2007
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Purely my opinion!

Overall Talent with cards: Jerry Cestkowski

Biggest Rising talent: Andrei Jikh

Best Flourishing group: Virtuoso (Scenacle is in a close second)

Most commercial flourishers: Dan and Dave Buck

Best Showoff: Brian Tudor
 

BrianationX

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Jul 13, 2008
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Purely my opinion!

Overall Talent with cards: Jerry Cestkowski

Biggest Rising talent: Andrei Jikh

Best Flourishing group: Virtuoso (Scenacle is in a close second)

Most commercial flourishers: Dan and Dave Buck

Best Showoff: Brian Tudor


This are my picks

Overall Talent with cards: Brian Tudor

Biggest Rising talent: Andrei Jikh (I cant believe I didnt Say me either)

Best Flourishing group: -------------(I dont Believe in Groups)

Best tag Team: Dan And Dave (Mattgic and MaXim were close)

Most commercial flourishers: Dan and Dave Buck

Best Showoff: Brian Tudor

Most Hype: Devo ( nothing revolutionary)

Old School Flourishes: JErry Cestkowski (Very Old School)

The ShowOff is the Overall King of Cards
 
This are my picks

Overall Talent with cards: Brian Tudor

Biggest Rising talent: Andrei Jikh (I cant believe I didnt Say me either)

Best Flourishing group: -------------(I dont Believe in Groups)

Best tag Team: Dan And Dave (Mattgic and MaXim were close)

Most commercial flourishers: Dan and Dave Buck

Best Showoff: Brian Tudor

Most Hype: Devo ( nothing revolutionary)

Old School Flourishes: JErry Cestkowski (Very Old School)

The ShowOff is the Overall King of Cards

lololololo Devo nothing revolutionary. Because of him flourishing is popular. Yeah brain tudor made a dvd with a bunch of sybil variations. He didn't start the real flourishing movement. It was Devo and Jerry. After them then people like the bucks started to become more popular. Oh and how can brian tudor be the best overall with cards if he only does super fast card magic and a bunch of cuts.
 

BrianationX

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lololololo Devo nothing revolutionary. Because of him flourishing is popular. Yeah brain tudor made a dvd with a bunch of sybil variations. He didn't start the real flourishing movement. It was Devo and Jerry. After them then people like the bucks started to become more popular. Oh and how can brian tudor be the best overall with cards if he only does super fast card magic and a bunch of cuts.

No
Devo has nothing special
Jerry just does a bunch of fans and card spreads Old School stuff
And you are wrong about Dan And Dave
They both learned from ShowOff One
Only one sybil there I don't know what you are talking about.
The Bucks became popular because of Tudor's Original material
In their first Video The System almost all of their material is based on the mechanics of Brian Tudors ShowOff so I don't see how devo had anything to do with them.

And Tudor is not just a flourisher he is a revolutionary magician and Poker Cheat

Do you think they don't exist or something? :confused:

No
I just haven't seen enough of them to make them real
 
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No
Devo has nothing special
Jerry just does a bunch of fans and card spreads Old School stuff
And you are wrong about Dan And Dave
They both learned from ShowOff One
Only one sybil there I don't know what you are talking about.
The Bucks became popular because of Tudor's Original material
In their first Video The System almost all of their material is based on the mechanics of Brian Tudors ShowOff so I don't see how devo had anything to do with them.

And Tudor is not just a flourisher he is a revolutionary magician and Poker Cheat



No
I just haven't seen enough of them to make them real

Meh I'm sick of talking to fanboys who don't know ... about flourishing.

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No
Devo has nothing special
Jerry just does a bunch of fans and card spreads Old School stuff
And you are wrong about Dan And Dave
They both learned from ShowOff One
Only one sybil there I don't know what you are talking about.
The Bucks became popular because of Tudor's Original material
In their first Video The System almost all of their material is based on the mechanics of Brian Tudors ShowOff so I don't see how devo had anything to do with them.

And Tudor is not just a flourisher he is a revolutionary magician and Poker Cheat



No
I just haven't seen enough of them to make them real


this made me laugh you have no idea what your talking about:rolleyes:

DnD have been doing this way before anyone heard of brian tudor, and i think the only thing of brian tudor's they use is the revolution cut.

and DnD are popular because they are damn good!!

i do agree devo has nothing going for him, the only thing i thought was cool that he did was the box sculpture thing BUT then andrei came in with his quad backpack thingy and i was like...............................................whoa

it seems that some people would say this question was hard but i found it very easy, the person i think has the most skill is obviously me :p
 

BrianationX

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Jul 13, 2008
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DnD have been doing this way before anyone heard of brian tudor, and i think the only thing of brian tudor's they use is the revolution cut.

and DnD are popular because they are damn good!!

i do agree devo has nothing going for him, the only thing i thought was cool that he did was the box sculpture thing BUT then andrei came in with his quad backpack thingy and i was like...............................................whoa
p

Way Before Brian Tudor?
Are you serious
Then WHy is almost all the material From them based on Brian Tudor's cuts
If you seen th original Video from when D&D were kids you would know that in most of their cuts they say "YOu can find that move on Brian Tudor's ShowOff"
ANd its not just the OH rev is also What the Hell, Bad Habit (Which is the Original Madonna).
ShowOff was the first video teaching Flourishes
Make no mistake about it

So you obviously Have no idea of what you are talking about
You probably dont even own ShowOff
I can tell because you only mentioned OH rev when you could have said the more obvious Bad HAbit and What The Hell
 
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